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	<title>Comments on: EXCLUSIVE: Leaked letter: ICCC climate skeptic conference &#8220;an elaborate hoax&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: mememine69</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2011/07/01/exclusive-leaked-letter-iccc-climate-skeptic-conference-an-elaborate-hoax/#comment-97329</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mememine69]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2011 03:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is sick. Why do we want this misery to happen? I&#039;m refusing to be a fear mongering, END OF THE WORLD CO2 Freak anymore. Count me out. CO2 is NOT killing us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is sick. Why do we want this misery to happen? I&#8217;m refusing to be a fear mongering, END OF THE WORLD CO2 Freak anymore. Count me out. CO2 is NOT killing us.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Fregger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad Fregger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 06:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s the funniest thing I ever read. To anyone but an ignorant AGW fanatic, it&#039;s obvious that the letter is the hoax here. LOL!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the funniest thing I ever read. To anyone but an ignorant AGW fanatic, it&#8217;s obvious that the letter is the hoax here. LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Climate Change Skeptics Unite At Heartland Conference &#8211; Huffington Post &#171; The Environment Online</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2011/07/01/exclusive-leaked-letter-iccc-climate-skeptic-conference-an-elaborate-hoax/#comment-97304</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Climate Change Skeptics Unite At Heartland Conference &#8211; Huffington Post &#171; The Environment Online]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 02:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] body of scientific evidence showing that human emissions are contributing to global warming. &#8230;EXCLUSIVE: Leaked letter: ICCC climate skeptic conference “an elaborate hoax”It&#8217;s Getting Hot In HereAt Denier Conference, Heartland Institute President Claims “Fossil [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] body of scientific evidence showing that human emissions are contributing to global warming. &#8230;EXCLUSIVE: Leaked letter: ICCC climate skeptic conference “an elaborate hoax”It&#8217;s Getting Hot In HereAt Denier Conference, Heartland Institute President Claims “Fossil [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Climate Change Skeptics Unite At Heartland Conference &#8211; Huffington Post &#124; CARBON CREDITS</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2011/07/01/exclusive-leaked-letter-iccc-climate-skeptic-conference-an-elaborate-hoax/#comment-97301</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Climate Change Skeptics Unite At Heartland Conference &#8211; Huffington Post &#124; CARBON CREDITS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 23:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] body of scientific evidence showing that human emissions are contributing to global warming. &#8230;EXCLUSIVE: Leaked letter: ICCC climate skeptic conference “an elaborate hoax” It&#8217;s Getting Hot In HereAt Denier Conference, Heartland Institute President Claims “Fossil [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] body of scientific evidence showing that human emissions are contributing to global warming. &#8230;EXCLUSIVE: Leaked letter: ICCC climate skeptic conference “an elaborate hoax” It&#8217;s Getting Hot In HereAt Denier Conference, Heartland Institute President Claims “Fossil [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mememine69</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2011/07/01/exclusive-leaked-letter-iccc-climate-skeptic-conference-an-elaborate-hoax/#comment-97297</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mememine69]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 21:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The “consensus” was perception, not truth because both denier and believer scientists agreed that; 
A-there will be effects,  and 
B, -those effects will vary from nothing to negligible to complete and out of control unstoppable warming of the planet turning us into more like the planet Venus. 
Gee, what’s not to agree with? That explains why every organization and every single scientist being paid to study the effects, (not causes), has their own unique definition of climate change.  It was a free pass and a consultant’s w&amp;t-dream and a free pass for lab coat consultants calling themselves saintly scientists. It was perception, not fact because how else would you explain the thousands of consensus scientists vastly out numbering the protestors. 
And here is absolute proof that scientific consensus of climate change was a perception and not fact. If it WERE true, the countless thousands of consensus and concerned scientists would be marching in the streets themselves and scrambling to get on CNN to warn the world of this comet hit of a global and planetary emergency they have said it is for 25 years now. The climate change mistake has done to science what abusive priests did to the Catholic Church and wasn&#039;t it scientists who polluted the planet in the first place with their cancer causing chemicals and pesticides?
Climate change was a comfortable lie turned criminal exaggeration fueled by political correctness on steroids. It comes home when you look your own children in eyes and warn them that they will die an unspeakable death on a CO2 ravaged planet if they don’t start turning the lights out more often.
 While Obama wanted one time promised to lower the seas and make the weather colder with taxes, he never even mentioned the “crisis” in his last State of the Union Address. Perception is politics and politics is perception. 
Not admitting our mistake of needless panic and crisis exaggeration has made lying and fear mongering neocons out of all of us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The “consensus” was perception, not truth because both denier and believer scientists agreed that;<br />
A-there will be effects,  and<br />
B, -those effects will vary from nothing to negligible to complete and out of control unstoppable warming of the planet turning us into more like the planet Venus.<br />
Gee, what’s not to agree with? That explains why every organization and every single scientist being paid to study the effects, (not causes), has their own unique definition of climate change.  It was a free pass and a consultant’s w&amp;t-dream and a free pass for lab coat consultants calling themselves saintly scientists. It was perception, not fact because how else would you explain the thousands of consensus scientists vastly out numbering the protestors.<br />
And here is absolute proof that scientific consensus of climate change was a perception and not fact. If it WERE true, the countless thousands of consensus and concerned scientists would be marching in the streets themselves and scrambling to get on CNN to warn the world of this comet hit of a global and planetary emergency they have said it is for 25 years now. The climate change mistake has done to science what abusive priests did to the Catholic Church and wasn&#8217;t it scientists who polluted the planet in the first place with their cancer causing chemicals and pesticides?<br />
Climate change was a comfortable lie turned criminal exaggeration fueled by political correctness on steroids. It comes home when you look your own children in eyes and warn them that they will die an unspeakable death on a CO2 ravaged planet if they don’t start turning the lights out more often.<br />
 While Obama wanted one time promised to lower the seas and make the weather colder with taxes, he never even mentioned the “crisis” in his last State of the Union Address. Perception is politics and politics is perception.<br />
Not admitting our mistake of needless panic and crisis exaggeration has made lying and fear mongering neocons out of all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Monica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 20:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I loved this whole post right up until I found out that it wasn&#039;t real. Yeah, I get how it was supposed to be an unconventional, nontraditional way of getting a message across, and I&#039;d like to think I have a pretty good sense of humor, but I didn&#039;t think it was funny. I know all of the things in the letter are actually real, but the &quot;joke&quot; felt more like one big lie in the end. Instead of framing the letter in an exclusive, Wikileaks-type way, maybe the author should frame it in a not-so-serious way...? Meh, that&#039;s just my two cents. Also, I guess I&#039;m used to seeing real news, announcements, etc. on this blog so this fake letter really threw me off. I would also suggest that the people in charge of this blog consider in the future how these types of posts will affect how IGHIH is seen by readers and the general public. I feel like this is a great outlet for all the stories/perspectives that don&#039;t get published, so for it to lose its credibility in the eyes of its readers would be a real shame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved this whole post right up until I found out that it wasn&#8217;t real. Yeah, I get how it was supposed to be an unconventional, nontraditional way of getting a message across, and I&#8217;d like to think I have a pretty good sense of humor, but I didn&#8217;t think it was funny. I know all of the things in the letter are actually real, but the &#8220;joke&#8221; felt more like one big lie in the end. Instead of framing the letter in an exclusive, Wikileaks-type way, maybe the author should frame it in a not-so-serious way&#8230;? Meh, that&#8217;s just my two cents. Also, I guess I&#8217;m used to seeing real news, announcements, etc. on this blog so this fake letter really threw me off. I would also suggest that the people in charge of this blog consider in the future how these types of posts will affect how IGHIH is seen by readers and the general public. I feel like this is a great outlet for all the stories/perspectives that don&#8217;t get published, so for it to lose its credibility in the eyes of its readers would be a real shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 19:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i posted a comment but it&#039;s not showing up. what gives?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i posted a comment but it&#8217;s not showing up. what gives?</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 18:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is really bad journalism and should not have been posted b/c it is probably a hoax. You really should have done your research on this one. The Heartland Institute, which the creation of is referred to in this letter, was founded in 1984. Don&#039;t get me wrong, it&#039;s a complete crap thinktank and most of the people in it should probably be put behind bars, but this letter suggesting that the Koch brothers create the &quot;Institute for the Heartland&quot; for the purpose of hosting the conference (which the Heartland Institute does) is folly b/c the Heartland Instute has (unfortunately) been propagandizing and spreading misinformation for decades. Americans for prosperity has also been around since 2004. The first ICCC was not until 2008. The IPCC, on the other hand, has been around since 1988, so there is no way that the Heartland Institute could have been created in response to the IPCC. The Heartland Institute was orginally funded by corporations like Phillip Morris to spread doubt about whether smoking was surely a bad thing and to spread information about why regulating it would be a bad thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really bad journalism and should not have been posted b/c it is probably a hoax. You really should have done your research on this one. The Heartland Institute, which the creation of is referred to in this letter, was founded in 1984. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, it&#8217;s a complete crap thinktank and most of the people in it should probably be put behind bars, but this letter suggesting that the Koch brothers create the &#8220;Institute for the Heartland&#8221; for the purpose of hosting the conference (which the Heartland Institute does) is folly b/c the Heartland Instute has (unfortunately) been propagandizing and spreading misinformation for decades. Americans for prosperity has also been around since 2004. The first ICCC was not until 2008. The IPCC, on the other hand, has been around since 1988, so there is no way that the Heartland Institute could have been created in response to the IPCC. The Heartland Institute was orginally funded by corporations like Phillip Morris to spread doubt about whether smoking was surely a bad thing and to spread information about why regulating it would be a bad thing.</p>
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