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	<title>Comments on: Kennedy and Blankenship to Debate Mountaintop Removal Coal Mining</title>
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		<title>By: Coal Round-up: West Virginia, India, Australia and Iowa Push Back on Coal &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2010/01/19/kennedy-and-blankenship-to-debate-mountaintop-removal-coal-mining/#comment-86131</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coal Round-up: West Virginia, India, Australia and Iowa Push Back on Coal &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 02:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Robert Kennedy Jr. and Don Blankenship, CEO of Massey Energy, debated mountaintop removal coal mining last night, the momentum against coal is building across the country and world.  Beginning yesterday, three [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Robert Kennedy Jr. and Don Blankenship, CEO of Massey Energy, debated mountaintop removal coal mining last night, the momentum against coal is building across the country and world.  Beginning yesterday, three [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Each danced around the real issue:  This country must pursue every kind of method to produce energy and keep it affordable (I have been saying that since I was in electrical engineering school in the 1970’s).  Wind is cheap (and site specific) unless all of the windmills need maintenance. Solar energy is also site specific.  Mr. Kennedy said his house makes more energy than he uses, but how many of us have those resources? I wish I could afford to make my home energy sufficient, but I do not have the money to convert or the manpower to maintain it.  How about geothermal or hydroelectric...again site specific and not without environmental issues.  Nuclear and garbage disposal sites could also be employed.  This country has to try every kind of energy source and work to correct the problems associated with each industry.  This country needs an energy policy that inspires environmental solutions and develops a partnership with industry.

It seems the main argument is mountain top removal.  Deep mining is ok.  However, the impoundment that was mentioned as scaring the little boy was probably made by the refuse from underground mining.  Underground mining methods frequently have 30% or more material they must impound while much of surface mining coal it taken directly to the power plants.  Mr. Kennedy talked about the damage done by surface mining, but roads are built using the same methods and there is a lot more land disturbance due to roads.  Recently a bridge was blown up across the Ohio River and a piece of the bridge went through a house.   The media reported it in passing, but when similar occurrences happen in mining we get weeks of coverage.

Canada, in its pursuit of tar-sand oil production, gave the oil companies a guaranteed floor for the oil price.  Now Canada is a big oil producer.  It would be silly to think this industry did not have environmental issues.  The government is a partner rather than a regulator.

One more point that seems to be avoided is the inspectors are told the must find and write violations and as a result many of these are frivolous.  Many of the field inspectors have very little practical experience and their supervisors are frequently called to abate their findings.  This practice runs the numbers of violations out of sight.  Mining is an industry that employs many engineers with vast education and experience to design the mine, only to have an inspector with one year experience to stop the implementation.

It is easy to criticize.  You don’t have to have a solution to run your mouth. Personally, I would rather have a coal mine in my back yard than a nuclear power plant, but I will take which ever gives me the cheapest power bill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each danced around the real issue:  This country must pursue every kind of method to produce energy and keep it affordable (I have been saying that since I was in electrical engineering school in the 1970’s).  Wind is cheap (and site specific) unless all of the windmills need maintenance. Solar energy is also site specific.  Mr. Kennedy said his house makes more energy than he uses, but how many of us have those resources? I wish I could afford to make my home energy sufficient, but I do not have the money to convert or the manpower to maintain it.  How about geothermal or hydroelectric&#8230;again site specific and not without environmental issues.  Nuclear and garbage disposal sites could also be employed.  This country has to try every kind of energy source and work to correct the problems associated with each industry.  This country needs an energy policy that inspires environmental solutions and develops a partnership with industry.</p>
<p>It seems the main argument is mountain top removal.  Deep mining is ok.  However, the impoundment that was mentioned as scaring the little boy was probably made by the refuse from underground mining.  Underground mining methods frequently have 30% or more material they must impound while much of surface mining coal it taken directly to the power plants.  Mr. Kennedy talked about the damage done by surface mining, but roads are built using the same methods and there is a lot more land disturbance due to roads.  Recently a bridge was blown up across the Ohio River and a piece of the bridge went through a house.   The media reported it in passing, but when similar occurrences happen in mining we get weeks of coverage.</p>
<p>Canada, in its pursuit of tar-sand oil production, gave the oil companies a guaranteed floor for the oil price.  Now Canada is a big oil producer.  It would be silly to think this industry did not have environmental issues.  The government is a partner rather than a regulator.</p>
<p>One more point that seems to be avoided is the inspectors are told the must find and write violations and as a result many of these are frivolous.  Many of the field inspectors have very little practical experience and their supervisors are frequently called to abate their findings.  This practice runs the numbers of violations out of sight.  Mining is an industry that employs many engineers with vast education and experience to design the mine, only to have an inspector with one year experience to stop the implementation.</p>
<p>It is easy to criticize.  You don’t have to have a solution to run your mouth. Personally, I would rather have a coal mine in my back yard than a nuclear power plant, but I will take which ever gives me the cheapest power bill.</p>
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		<title>By: seekjustice</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Five things Kennedy should have said to Don: 1) LIAR! No man who takes pride in his contribution to union-busting can say that he cares about the American worker - it is an utter falsehood. 2) Show a single mining town that has seen prosperity and that will be evidence of your contribution to improving people&#039;s quality of life. 3) You, fat cat CEOs, embody the industry, not your oppressed employees or their poor, disease-stricken pastors, schoolteachers, mothers, brothers, children, etc. 4) No environmental protection is to blame for lost jobs in the USA, our FTAs and the WTO are to blame for that. 5) Serious poverty that exists around the world is a direct result of the actions of people who think like Don Blankenship.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Five things Kennedy should have said to Don: 1) LIAR! No man who takes pride in his contribution to union-busting can say that he cares about the American worker &#8211; it is an utter falsehood. 2) Show a single mining town that has seen prosperity and that will be evidence of your contribution to improving people&#8217;s quality of life. 3) You, fat cat CEOs, embody the industry, not your oppressed employees or their poor, disease-stricken pastors, schoolteachers, mothers, brothers, children, etc. 4) No environmental protection is to blame for lost jobs in the USA, our FTAs and the WTO are to blame for that. 5) Serious poverty that exists around the world is a direct result of the actions of people who think like Don Blankenship.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned Young People Fight Mountaintop Removal &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2010/01/19/kennedy-and-blankenship-to-debate-mountaintop-removal-coal-mining/#comment-86075</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Concerned Young People Fight Mountaintop Removal &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] effects MTR has on environments and communities. All of this attention comes at the brink of this evening’s debate between Don Blankenship, CEO of Massey Energy, and Bobby Kennedy Jr, chief litigator for the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] effects MTR has on environments and communities. All of this attention comes at the brink of this evening’s debate between Don Blankenship, CEO of Massey Energy, and Bobby Kennedy Jr, chief litigator for the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tommaso</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2010/01/19/kennedy-and-blankenship-to-debate-mountaintop-removal-coal-mining/#comment-86061</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tommaso]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This debate is going to be EPIC! Can&#039;t wait to see Mr. Coal Worker have to explain why his brutal tactics are killing jobs both in the short and long run.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This debate is going to be EPIC! Can&#8217;t wait to see Mr. Coal Worker have to explain why his brutal tactics are killing jobs both in the short and long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Greenhoof &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Appalachian Coal Set For Big Decline, Protests &#38; High Profile Debates or Not</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2010/01/19/kennedy-and-blankenship-to-debate-mountaintop-removal-coal-mining/#comment-86060</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greenhoof &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Appalachian Coal Set For Big Decline, Protests &#38; High Profile Debates or Not]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of the outcome of high profile public debate&#8211;viz Waterkeeper Bobby Kennedy Jr v. Dirty Coal Don Blankenship smackdown tomorrow night at the University of Charleston&#8211;or vehement protest from the likes of youth [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the outcome of high profile public debate&#8211;viz Waterkeeper Bobby Kennedy Jr v. Dirty Coal Don Blankenship smackdown tomorrow night at the University of Charleston&#8211;or vehement protest from the likes of youth [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Appalachian Coal Set For Big Decline, Protests &#38; High Profile Debates or Not &#124; Green Resouces</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2010/01/19/kennedy-and-blankenship-to-debate-mountaintop-removal-coal-mining/#comment-86058</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Appalachian Coal Set For Big Decline, Protests &#38; High Profile Debates or Not &#124; Green Resouces]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of the outcome of high profile public debate&#8211;viz Waterkeeper Bobby Kennedy Jr v. Dirty Coal Don Blankenship smackdown tomorrow night at the University of Charleston&#8211;or vehement protest from the likes of youth [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the outcome of high profile public debate&#8211;viz Waterkeeper Bobby Kennedy Jr v. Dirty Coal Don Blankenship smackdown tomorrow night at the University of Charleston&#8211;or vehement protest from the likes of youth [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lenny Kohm</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2010/01/19/kennedy-and-blankenship-to-debate-mountaintop-removal-coal-mining/#comment-86053</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lenny Kohm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Millions of citizens speaking softly results in one very loud voice, and if that one voice is directed at the U.S. Congress it can stop mountaintop removal coal mining in Appalachia. Please contact your Representative and Senators, urge them to cosponsor &amp; support the Clean Water Protection Act (HR 1310), and the Appalachia Restoration Act (S 696). They are blowing up our mountains, and there oughta be a law!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Millions of citizens speaking softly results in one very loud voice, and if that one voice is directed at the U.S. Congress it can stop mountaintop removal coal mining in Appalachia. Please contact your Representative and Senators, urge them to cosponsor &amp; support the Clean Water Protection Act (HR 1310), and the Appalachia Restoration Act (S 696). They are blowing up our mountains, and there oughta be a law!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Friedman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Friedman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m extremely excited to watch this debate go down. I&#039;ve interned with Bobby Kennedy at Riverkeeper for several years and he&#039;s a very impressive man. He&#039;s been one of the leading advocates of the Clean Water Act since the early 90s, and his work in domestic environmental policy is extensive and very broad.  Blankenship has no idea what he&#039;s going up against.

I will say, though, that I sincerely hope that Blankenship steers clear of Kennedy&#039;s past. It is, after all, Kennedy&#039;s arrest that resulted in him becoming such an incredible environmental advocate. Everyone, even a Kennedy, trips up in life, but rarely do we see such a dramatic turnaround in a convict&#039;s character as we&#039;ve seen with Bobby. For Blankenship to target this would be a terrible mistake.

Just a link correction... the debate will be livecast on Waterkeeper&#039;s site at http://www.waterkeeper.org.  Should be a good one!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m extremely excited to watch this debate go down. I&#8217;ve interned with Bobby Kennedy at Riverkeeper for several years and he&#8217;s a very impressive man. He&#8217;s been one of the leading advocates of the Clean Water Act since the early 90s, and his work in domestic environmental policy is extensive and very broad.  Blankenship has no idea what he&#8217;s going up against.</p>
<p>I will say, though, that I sincerely hope that Blankenship steers clear of Kennedy&#8217;s past. It is, after all, Kennedy&#8217;s arrest that resulted in him becoming such an incredible environmental advocate. Everyone, even a Kennedy, trips up in life, but rarely do we see such a dramatic turnaround in a convict&#8217;s character as we&#8217;ve seen with Bobby. For Blankenship to target this would be a terrible mistake.</p>
<p>Just a link correction&#8230; the debate will be livecast on Waterkeeper&#8217;s site at <a href="http://www.waterkeeper.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.waterkeeper.org</a>.  Should be a good one!</p>
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