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By: 2009 Highlights – 2010 Here We Come « Southern Energy Network's Blog

2009 Highlights – 2010 Here We Come « Southern Energy Network's Blog — Tue, 19 Jan 2010 14:49:28 +0000

[...] the youth climate movement organized in unprecedented ways to positively influence the Global Climate Conference in Copenhagen last December. Although the conference outcome was far from ideal, youth climate activists were [...]

By: Re-Powering the Movement: To Healthy Growth in 2010 « It’s Getting Hot In Here

Tue, 05 Jan 2010 01:54:47 +0000

[...] climate movement that need to be re-examined, strengthened or freshly innovated, and many great ideas have already been put forth. As we power back on after Copenhagen, let us take this [...]

By: theClimateers » Here’s to Healthy Growth in 2010

theClimateers » Here’s to Healthy Growth in 2010 — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 00:16:39 +0000

[...] climate movement that need to be re-examined, strengthened or freshly innovated, and many great ideas have already been put forth. As we power back on after Copenhagen, let us take this [...]

By: Noli Irritare Leones » Blog Archive » First link round up of 2010, from the death of Jim Goddard to the proposed Kenyan constitution to the theology of Twilight

Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:57:29 +0000

[...] Copenhagen: Triumph or Failure? [...]

By: rhiya

rhiya — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:47:53 +0000

i would agree in particular with what morgan highlighted – having always been a propagator of the “we seek connection, not power” message, i think “building mutual trust and love” with everyone else fighting this fight is absolutely crucial (and totally warm and fuzzy to think about)for 2010.

but that’s also why i’m particularly hesitant to endorse the “earth race” mentality – not on the basis of being radically anti-markets, but recognizing that competition, stress and isolationism are what got us in this mess. healthy competition is a possibility that im not ruling out, but it begs the question: are we more capable of bringing about moderate shifts in values within the same system (i.e compassionate international competition), or complete and utter system change (bringing down the individualist / protectionist mentality all together)?

where are our efforts best directed, as one, colorful, young and old movement? i would welcome thoughts on this.

thanks for doing this phil. have the 350 folks ever noticed that non-COP days in a year pretty much total to 350? i.e, lets work for 350ppm for the 350 days of the year that really count.i’m a nerd; you don’t have to tell me.

By: Lawrence Baker

Lawrence Baker — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:33:59 +0000

I would like to add this about SCIENCE and INNOVATION.
Fact: American green energy innovation and ingenuity, science really, hasn’t been funded since 2001.
http://www.eere.energy.gov/inventions
New renewable energy inventors have no stimulus grant money to develop their inventions. The Department of Energy and the National Renewable Energy Laboratory and in particular, Dr. Chu, has snuffed any new green energy advancements. Their agenda is to do research and development of product line for the multinational corporations and keep American innovation down.
Old patented science advancements in green energy inventions (outmoding fossil fuels) were bought up by the multinational corporations and kept off of the market so that they would not upset their New World Manufacturing Order agenda. The last World conquer was Hitler.
Yes, it is a win- win for Communist China and the multinational corporations and a loss- loss for Democracy and Freedom and the American people. Remember, the American manufacturing base moved to China for cheap labor; (graduate engineer $7,000 a year and most everyone else $700 a year) their allegiance is now with Communist China.
Bush played the bad cop, Obama plays the good cop, but the fact is we are still on the same agenda. There is no change, the free press is gone. The treason of the multinational corporations and their owned and controlled congress continues. There will be no rebuilding of America’s manufacturing capabilities from the ground up with new inventions. There will only be more debt for the American people and dominance of our government by the multinational corporations New World Order agenda.
Ask your government representatives WHY there is no funding for new inventions (advancement in science) to build a new American economy.

By: Scott Lee

Scott Lee — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 02:57:04 +0000

It’s proper and necessary to do this.

By: Jay O'Hara

Jay O'Hara — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:24:11 +0000

Phil, great article. I think you are right on in the assessment particularly of the US movement. As Alinsky would say, it is time to identify our opponents (by name) and polarize, polarize, polarize. Coal IS the enemy of prosperity, and by not making the morality clear we have enabled our so-called champions to do the carbon equivalent of the Missouri Compromise.

I think Ken Ward’s slavery analogy is particularly apt, and we should all read it, then go out and make this about morality, justice and survival. Happy talk about clean energy economy will only get us so far.

Here’s ken’s article: http://www.grist.org/article/the-moral-equivalent-of-slavery/

-Jay

By: nickengelfried

nickengelfried — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:50:53 +0000

Another thought: like Casper above, I also was struck by the phrase “make coal the enemy of prosperity.” I think it’s become clear since Copenhagen that we will see no real international progress to stabilize the climate until the power of coal is extracted from politics – in the US, China, and elsewhere. Yet at least in the US, the coal industry has largely succeeded in convincing the public that coal can be made “clean.” Perhaps we need an international mobilization on the scale of the October 24th 350 Day of Action, focused on designating coal as the enemy of prosperity. Of course, one problem with that which 350 didn’t have to deal with is that it’s a negatively framed message; one of the wonderful things about the October 24th Day of Action was that it was FOR something, not against something. Yet sometimes you do have to say no, loud and clearly. I’d be interested in hearing anyone’s thoughts about this. For an international action of this type, it would probably make sense to focus our efforts on the “C5″ countries mentioned in Phil’s post, plus a few others like India where coal is trying to make more serious inroads.

By: freepubtrans

freepubtrans — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:10:19 +0000

Cars or people. Choose.