Comments on: Time Out: Youth Climate Leaders Must Change the Game http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/11/20/time-out-youth-climate-leaders-must-change-the-game/ Dispatches from the Youth Climate Movement Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:27:06 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: davemadan http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/11/20/time-out-youth-climate-leaders-must-change-the-game/#comment-83143 davemadan Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:48:28 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=14623#comment-83143 Thanks Jessy... well said. Thanks Jessy… well said.

]]> By: nickengelfried http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/11/20/time-out-youth-climate-leaders-must-change-the-game/#comment-83105 nickengelfried Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:31:41 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=14623#comment-83105 Thanks Jessy, for this re-cap of where we stand today and what we need to be focused on moving into Copenhagen. Like many others, I've definitely had my high points and low points this week, but at the moment am feeling cautiously hopeful that something concrete will be accomplished during the negotiations. In many ways, I think it's better that we're preparing now for multiple possible outcomes from Copenhagen, rather than going into the process with the naive attitude that it will automatically work out the way we want it to. As for you Tuttle, judging from the comments I've seen you leave on posts on this blog, I get the impression that all of us here disgust you pretty much. I've read many of your comments, and never seen one that was positive or did much more than make fun of climate activist strategies and sneer at us writers because we "aren't doing enough." I'm sorry you feel this way; I think most of us contributors are good people trying do the best we can to make positive change within the constraints of an unjust system (will solving the climate crisis require getting at the root of this unjust system? Absolutely. Many of us are doing our best on that front, too). Maybe you have some good ideas to share with us: I'd love to hear how you are spending your own time unraveling racist, sexist, and consumerist structures in dramatic and effective ways. Thanks Jessy, for this re-cap of where we stand today and what we need to be focused on moving into Copenhagen. Like many others, I’ve definitely had my high points and low points this week, but at the moment am feeling cautiously hopeful that something concrete will be accomplished during the negotiations. In many ways, I think it’s better that we’re preparing now for multiple possible outcomes from Copenhagen, rather than going into the process with the naive attitude that it will automatically work out the way we want it to.

As for you Tuttle, judging from the comments I’ve seen you leave on posts on this blog, I get the impression that all of us here disgust you pretty much. I’ve read many of your comments, and never seen one that was positive or did much more than make fun of climate activist strategies and sneer at us writers because we “aren’t doing enough.” I’m sorry you feel this way; I think most of us contributors are good people trying do the best we can to make positive change within the constraints of an unjust system (will solving the climate crisis require getting at the root of this unjust system? Absolutely. Many of us are doing our best on that front, too). Maybe you have some good ideas to share with us: I’d love to hear how you are spending your own time unraveling racist, sexist, and consumerist structures in dramatic and effective ways.

]]> By: tuttle tuttle http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/11/20/time-out-youth-climate-leaders-must-change-the-game/#comment-83099 tuttle tuttle Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:51:22 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=14623#comment-83099 are you freaking serious? on top of everything, you called lisa jackson a "phenomenal leader"? then why hasn't she used her "phenomenal leadership" to end mountaintop removal, natural gas drilling, and all the other white supremacist, classist, male-dominated ecocidal practices happening in the US right now? and you said that you aren't supporting consumer culture, even though you're supporting a government based off of a history of exploiting the slave labor of the working class and people of color to build their empire based on consumer culture? shame on you, energy action coalition. everything about this post made me feel sick. are you freaking serious? on top of everything, you called lisa jackson a “phenomenal leader”? then why hasn’t she used her “phenomenal leadership” to end mountaintop removal, natural gas drilling, and all the other white supremacist, classist, male-dominated ecocidal practices happening in the US right now? and you said that you aren’t supporting consumer culture, even though you’re supporting a government based off of a history of exploiting the slave labor of the working class and people of color to build their empire based on consumer culture?

shame on you, energy action coalition. everything about this post made me feel sick.

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