Comments on: November 30th – Take Action for Climate Justice! http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/11/11/november-30th-take-action-for-climate-justice/ Dispatches from the Youth Climate Movement Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:27:06 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Meme Mine http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/11/11/november-30th-take-action-for-climate-justice/#comment-82869 Meme Mine Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:01:28 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=14397#comment-82869 What I find fascinating about global warming and climate change and global dooming is that the social factor of the equation is far more complicated and interesting and real compared to the so-called “science” of global warming. SAVE THE PLANET is the “vital lie” en mass. This “vital lie” is that “we tell ourselves this limitless consciousness we have total control over, makes us our own personal Gods and is unfortunately dependent on a mortal mass of perishable flesh. It’s our greatest struggle as human beings. But spreading this existential pain en mass via this SAVE THE PLANET psychosis requires two assumptions: A: The planet is mortal. B: We humans while not being real Gods can at least be God-like enough and strong enough to kill planets. Two Ants on a Crowded Anthill: Ant#1 “What you looking at? Ant#2 “Can’t you see it? We must be doing something to the planet?” What I find fascinating about global warming and climate change and global dooming is that the social factor of the equation is far more complicated and interesting and real compared to the so-called “science” of global warming.
SAVE THE PLANET is the “vital lie” en mass. This “vital lie” is that “we tell ourselves this limitless consciousness we have total control over, makes us our own personal Gods and is unfortunately dependent on a mortal mass of perishable flesh. It’s our greatest struggle as human beings.
But spreading this existential pain en mass via this SAVE THE PLANET psychosis requires two assumptions:
A: The planet is mortal.
B: We humans while not being real Gods can at least be God-like enough and strong enough to kill planets.

Two Ants on a Crowded Anthill:

Ant#1 “What you looking at?
Ant#2 “Can’t you see it? We must be doing something to the planet?”

]]> By: hsr0601 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/11/11/november-30th-take-action-for-climate-justice/#comment-82854 hsr0601 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:44:55 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=14397#comment-82854 Seeing the forest and big picture !! 1. To date, out of the earmarked $787bn in stimulus package , roughly $155bn dollars, not sufficient to reverse the trend of jobless rate, have been doled out. But, away from job saving and creation, GDP growth etc, the added value on the stock market alone might stay at roughly $1trillion, which could help us see the forest in light of conclusion of the historic health care and sustainable energy act. As always, focusing exclusively on up-front cost and subtracting its added value from equation, we will more likely be trapped in a small cage. 2. The world-wide stimulus package to prop up the crumbling economy is an interim measure. For that, a long-standing and fundamental energy framework is urgently needed. 3. The poor countries can't afford high fossil fuel costs, which will strain global economy. 4. In recent years, the high oil price has taxed jobs word-wide, therefore work creation via developing sustainable resources is considered to be imperative, which might be a final focus of this great recession. If the sustainable energy policy works against employment, EU should be suffering from the highest jobless rate by now, but the reality is the other way round. 5. Thankfully and interestingly enough, 100s of Companies (with $13 Trillion) Are Demanding Strong Climate Deal in Copenhagen just like environmental activists, and a coalition of more than 500 Global Businesses is also demanding ambitious new climate deal. 6. Those who are concerned about growing deficit are obliged to get engaged in energy fix actively. 7. In the face of drastic dent in fossil fuels and soaring price of them, the hands-off policy reflects economic crash world-wide. Probably it doesn't matter whether someone is on the upper deck of Titanic ship or not as the global economy is interconnected just like Internet. Seeing the forest and big picture !!

1. To date, out of the earmarked $787bn in stimulus package , roughly $155bn dollars, not sufficient to reverse the trend of jobless rate, have been doled out. But, away from job saving and creation, GDP growth etc, the added value on the stock market alone might stay at roughly $1trillion, which could help us see the forest in light of conclusion of the historic health care and sustainable energy act.

As always, focusing exclusively on up-front cost and subtracting its added value from equation, we will more likely be trapped in a small cage.

2. The world-wide stimulus package to prop up the crumbling economy is an interim measure. For that, a long-standing and fundamental energy framework is urgently needed.

3. The poor countries can’t afford high fossil fuel costs, which will strain global economy.

4. In recent years, the high oil price has taxed jobs word-wide, therefore work creation via developing sustainable resources is considered to be imperative, which might be a final focus of this great recession.
If the sustainable energy policy works against employment, EU should be suffering from the highest jobless rate by now, but the reality is the other way round.

5. Thankfully and interestingly enough, 100s of Companies (with $13 Trillion) Are Demanding Strong Climate Deal in Copenhagen just like environmental activists, and a coalition of more than 500 Global Businesses is also demanding ambitious new climate deal.

6. Those who are concerned about growing deficit are obliged to get engaged in energy fix actively.

7. In the face of drastic dent in fossil fuels and soaring price of them, the hands-off policy reflects economic crash world-wide.

Probably it doesn’t matter whether someone is on the upper deck of Titanic ship or not as the global economy is interconnected just like Internet.

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