Comments on: L’Aquila – G8/MEF and false solutions http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/07/09/laquila-g8mef-and-false-solutions/ Dispatches from the Youth Climate Movement Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:05:39 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Fran Barlow http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/07/09/laquila-g8mef-and-false-solutions/#comment-80027 Fran Barlow Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:40:56 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=11890#comment-80027 You have my sympathy. You are quite right. CC&S cannot be part of any solution tio the problems of climate change on the timelines it needs to be on the be relevant. It also comes at an unacceptable opportunity cost and in so far as this fantasm will prolong the life of ageing coal plants, it comes at a real and contemporary human cost. We need to be phasing out fossil fuels -- and especially coal and crude oil -- ASAP Fran You have my sympathy. You are quite right. CC&S cannot be part of any solution tio the problems of climate change on the timelines it needs to be on the be relevant. It also comes at an unacceptable opportunity cost and in so far as this fantasm will prolong the life of ageing coal plants, it comes at a real and contemporary human cost.

We need to be phasing out fossil fuels — and especially coal and crude oil — ASAP

Fran

]]> By: Akompab Benjamin http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/07/09/laquila-g8mef-and-false-solutions/#comment-80002 Akompab Benjamin Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:21:54 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=11890#comment-80002 Its a pity that you couldn't make your voice heard at the conference. But the truth is that many other participants like you also had interesting points to table to the G8 leaders.As an activist, expressing decent or calling the type of names that you might suggest would not have been a pragmatic approach and will instead be questionable about your decent. Personally I was not satisfied with the results of the conference. Little was said about the climate negotiation. The absence of the Chinese president from such an international forum suggest a weakness in attaining proper outcomes. The truth is that most governments will support initiative that promote the growth of their economies and that's why Australia is comfortable with the GCCSI . We saw a similar approach taken by the US government in the past. Nevertheless the climate battle continues and lets see what comes up from Copenhagen in December. Its a pity that you couldn’t make your voice heard at the conference. But the truth is that many other participants like you also had interesting points to table to the G8 leaders.As an activist, expressing decent or calling the type of names that you might suggest would not have been a pragmatic approach and will instead be questionable about your decent.

Personally I was not satisfied with the results of the conference. Little was said about the climate negotiation. The absence of the Chinese president from such an international forum suggest a weakness in attaining proper outcomes. The truth is that most governments will support initiative that promote the growth of their economies and that’s why Australia is comfortable with the GCCSI . We saw a similar approach taken by the US government in the past.

Nevertheless the climate battle continues and lets see what comes up from Copenhagen in December.

]]> By: annackeenan http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/07/09/laquila-g8mef-and-false-solutions/#comment-79945 annackeenan Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:10:17 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=11890#comment-79945 Thanks Matt - typo corrected. $100bn would indeed be a head-exploder. I suppose we can at least be thankful that it's 'only' in the 'millions'. The fight goes on, tomorrow is a brand new day. Thanks Matt – typo corrected. $100bn would indeed be a head-exploder. I suppose we can at least be thankful that it’s ‘only’ in the ‘millions’.

The fight goes on, tomorrow is a brand new day.

]]> By: Concerned reader http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/07/09/laquila-g8mef-and-false-solutions/#comment-79944 Concerned reader Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:56:10 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=11890#comment-79944 I'm not sure I agree with your point of view. Stopping the use of coal is an unrealistic expectation. If previous technologies can be modified to be less harmful to the environment then I believe that it is almost impossible to deny this developed. Granted Australia benefits from coal being exported but to assume that this is the only motivation for this is simplistic. It's also worthy to note that clean coal is only a subset of carbon capture. Carbon capture applies to numerous industries. I’m not sure I agree with your point of view. Stopping the use of coal is an unrealistic expectation. If previous technologies can be modified to be less harmful to the environment then I believe that it is almost impossible to deny this developed. Granted Australia benefits from coal being exported but to assume that this is the only motivation for this is simplistic.

It’s also worthy to note that clean coal is only a subset of carbon capture. Carbon capture applies to numerous industries.

]]> By: Greenpeace banner on Mt Rushmore, and FIVE coal plants occupied in Italy. « It’s Getting Hot In Here http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/07/09/laquila-g8mef-and-false-solutions/#comment-79943 Greenpeace banner on Mt Rushmore, and FIVE coal plants occupied in Italy. « It’s Getting Hot In Here Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:39:36 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=11890#comment-79943 [...] the G8 summit in  Italy, an announcement was made of a new commitment to keeping global temperature rise below 2 [...] [...] the G8 summit in  Italy, an announcement was made of a new commitment to keeping global temperature rise below 2 [...]

]]> By: Tim http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/07/09/laquila-g8mef-and-false-solutions/#comment-79942 Tim Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:00:50 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=11890#comment-79942 I believe the yearly investment is $100 million, not $100 billion. You might want to check the facts on that one. I believe the yearly investment is $100 million, not $100 billion. You might want to check the facts on that one.

]]> By: Matt Dernoga http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/07/09/laquila-g8mef-and-false-solutions/#comment-79941 Matt Dernoga Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:17:25 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=11890#comment-79941 Hey I think you've made an excellent post. One correction is that the piece of crap CCS institute only got 100 million, you listed 100 billion above, which almost made my head explode. This really did appear to be a complete illusion of progress. I saw the press conference, it was on the major cable news stations, and then they cut off after Obama talked, but BBC was covering Rudd as well. Although I must admit it would've been incredible to see someone stand up and call out our leaders and tell it like it is, don't be so hard on yourself. I can't even imagine what that setting is like, so it would be hard to spontaneously disrupt. Lesson learned though. Hey I think you’ve made an excellent post. One correction is that the piece of crap CCS institute only got 100 million, you listed 100 billion above, which almost made my head explode. This really did appear to be a complete illusion of progress.

I saw the press conference, it was on the major cable news stations, and then they cut off after Obama talked, but BBC was covering Rudd as well. Although I must admit it would’ve been incredible to see someone stand up and call out our leaders and tell it like it is, don’t be so hard on yourself. I can’t even imagine what that setting is like, so it would be hard to spontaneously disrupt. Lesson learned though.

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