Comments on: ACES in the House: a Job, Well, Done. http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/06/27/aces-in-the-house-a-job-well-done/ Dispatches from the Youth Climate Movement Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:09:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: dl http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/06/27/aces-in-the-house-a-job-well-done/#comment-79855 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:09:38 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=11735#comment-79855 “But that’s the sorry state of the US Congress today – even with a handsome Democratic majority, legislators are still more concerned with dirty industry’s short-term profits than they are with the long-term feasibility of our modern economy.”

just admit that the problem is capitalism and pushing for more policies isnt gonna end capitalism, it’ll keep the pigs with more money than you’ll ever get your hands on in power, making decisions over what’s best for your life, your body, your environment… uuuum no thanks

it’s damn past time to get beyond capitalism

]]> By: Juliana Williams http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/06/27/aces-in-the-house-a-job-well-done/#comment-79728 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:46:00 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=11735#comment-79728 We do need to recognize the failure. After all, how can we expect to improve as a movement if we refuse to learn from our mistakes. Pretending failures don’t happen is virtually guaranteeing continued progress along that path. The thing to remember is that we always have more options. Regardless of whether or not this bill (or something similar) gets signed into law, there are more ways to boost the transition to clean energy technologies than just cap-and-trade. So while ACES is a pretty substantial move, it’s not the end-game. I’m reminded of that New Yorker article a few months ago about the strategy of the underdog. The underdog wins when it refuses to play by the traditional norms or conditions of the game (which inherently favor the incumbents). So let’s take a step back and discuss how we can break out of this Sisyphusian climb to pass good climate legislation. What can we do to shift the balance of power? What alternative practices might we pursue?

]]> By: What happened on Friday « It’s Getting Hot In Here http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/06/27/aces-in-the-house-a-job-well-done/#comment-79720 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:28:48 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=11735#comment-79720 [...] I’m very proud of the actions that I helped to organize around the bill.  But now it’s time to quickly regroup and form a much stronger position around the things that we are not willing to compromise around.  I agree with Alex Tinker’s recent blog post– “If ACES does not get a whole lot stronger in the Senate, it is time to kill the bill. Kill the bill and start over, or kill the bill and let EPA use its authority to regulate greenhouse gas emissions. Of those options, I strongly prefer the former.” -link [...]

]]> By: David Rooney http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/06/27/aces-in-the-house-a-job-well-done/#comment-79706 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:13:18 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=11735#comment-79706 Just hoping y’all realize that while they pit you supposed (D)s against supposed (R)s and against we (I)’s the reality is simple.

ALL OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS don’t care about any of us.

READ AND ENJOY!!!!

http://leavittbrothers.com/pdfs/goldman-sachs.pdf

This and any climate bill will make the Sub-prime debacle look like a bargain to American taxpayers, American small businesses and ultimately YOUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN. For what….and extra .02 degrees in two decades.

I give up. I’m bolting outta the USA and taking my skills and productivity with me. And since many of those jobs leaving the US are going to South America I better get down there sooner rather than later. Go figure….AMERICANS TRYING TO GET GREEN CARDS IN OTHER COUNTRIES….ROFL. Go riddens.

]]> By: David Rooney http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/06/27/aces-in-the-house-a-job-well-done/#comment-79700 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:23:47 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=11735#comment-79700 “We must internalize failure” pretty much sums it up.

This bill is nothing but a shakedown of the American taxpayers. You know it (I hope) and I know it. Your beloved representatives have become the fabled “rebels who stormed the castle” and it’s rather disturbing to what extent denial is in play here. Sorry to throw cold water. But replacing POS’s you don’t like with the POS’s you like is where we are in this unfortunate place in history.

Exporting pollution and jobs is a failed approach. Should we reduce fossil fuels? Yes. A proper phase out should be in order. I know many of your followers don’t care about the effects on the business community.

Do so at your peril.

]]> By: Sam http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/06/27/aces-in-the-house-a-job-well-done/#comment-79686 Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:45:13 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=11735#comment-79686 Amen.

Are there any grumblings on who would be writing the senate bill, or when its going to happen?

We can totally do better than this bill; we have to. Maybe the youth movement will be stronger during the school year? Or maybe school will distract us from putting the necessary energy into this effort. I guess we will see.

]]> By: Morgan http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/06/27/aces-in-the-house-a-job-well-done/#comment-79671 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:36:51 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=11735#comment-79671 Alex, thanks for this summary. Yesterday was a very intense day for me, partly because of all the organizing I was doing, but partly because of the uneasy feeling I had in working so hard to pass something that falls so short. I’m working on thoughts to post here about that experience, once the digest a little more, but I hear your call to draw a line in the sand loud and clear.

Thanks to all who helped to get us to where we are, and I hope we all learned a lot so we can be 10 times louder and bolder next time.

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