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	<title>Comments on: Failed Climate Policy: ACESA needs an overhaul, or to be scrapped</title>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greg, I&#039;m concerned about this idea that we can get a bill that will provide a path to climate justice if only we just ask a little bit harder and lobby a little bit (or a lot) more.  We live under a system of government that is made to answer to those who hold the most power, and that is generally power through economic clout. We don&#039;t have a whole lot of leverage when we ask nicely and write letters, when the other political players have seemingly endless amounts of money to buy off lawmakers and judges, thousands of full-time paid lobbyists, and hired thugs to intimidate those who would resist their plans for never ending growth.

We have a whole other set of tools that can give us significant leverage to achieve what sometimes seems far off. What if instead of asking people to write letters, groups like the Energy Action Coalition were organizing around the country to shut down federal offices if ACESA was passed without an overhaul, rather than diverting energy into filling Congressional hearing rooms with green shirts? What if climate groups brought financial districts of a half dozen cities across the country were brought to a halt for a day if there was no provision for a moratorium on all new coal plants and mining projects?

The same old, tired tactics aren&#039;t going to achieve the radical changes needed to stop catastrophic climate change.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, I&#8217;m concerned about this idea that we can get a bill that will provide a path to climate justice if only we just ask a little bit harder and lobby a little bit (or a lot) more.  We live under a system of government that is made to answer to those who hold the most power, and that is generally power through economic clout. We don&#8217;t have a whole lot of leverage when we ask nicely and write letters, when the other political players have seemingly endless amounts of money to buy off lawmakers and judges, thousands of full-time paid lobbyists, and hired thugs to intimidate those who would resist their plans for never ending growth.</p>
<p>We have a whole other set of tools that can give us significant leverage to achieve what sometimes seems far off. What if instead of asking people to write letters, groups like the Energy Action Coalition were organizing around the country to shut down federal offices if ACESA was passed without an overhaul, rather than diverting energy into filling Congressional hearing rooms with green shirts? What if climate groups brought financial districts of a half dozen cities across the country were brought to a halt for a day if there was no provision for a moratorium on all new coal plants and mining projects?</p>
<p>The same old, tired tactics aren&#8217;t going to achieve the radical changes needed to stop catastrophic climate change.</p>
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		<title>By: Mattie Reitman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mattie Reitman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is me agreeing with you.
Ohio hasn&#039;t helped much, although we do have Kucinich speaking the good word!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is me agreeing with you.<br />
Ohio hasn&#8217;t helped much, although we do have Kucinich speaking the good word!</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Griffith</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/06/26/failed-climate-policy-what-you-should-know-about-acesa/#comment-79677</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Griffith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not disagree with any of the above facts, but the problem is it is 2009, not 2000, and as Al Gore said, &quot;There is no Plan B.&quot; We cannot wait to get moving even if it is too slow and too inadequate. The alternative to this clearly inadequate bill  is no progress at all and time is running out both for the environment and for the economy. After we get this passed into law and at least start moving  then we can elect a better bunch and ask for improvements. (The exception is we should not support a bill that takes away the power of the EPA to regulate or we will be stuck with the bad aspects of this bill.) Time is truly of the essence and I don&#039;t think we can wait one or more years for a better bill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not disagree with any of the above facts, but the problem is it is 2009, not 2000, and as Al Gore said, &#8220;There is no Plan B.&#8221; We cannot wait to get moving even if it is too slow and too inadequate. The alternative to this clearly inadequate bill  is no progress at all and time is running out both for the environment and for the economy. After we get this passed into law and at least start moving  then we can elect a better bunch and ask for improvements. (The exception is we should not support a bill that takes away the power of the EPA to regulate or we will be stuck with the bad aspects of this bill.) Time is truly of the essence and I don&#8217;t think we can wait one or more years for a better bill.</p>
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		<title>By: andrewmunn</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/06/26/failed-climate-policy-what-you-should-know-about-acesa/#comment-79670</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andrewmunn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Brian - you know something is wrong when big fossil fuel companies and the youth climate movement support the same climate bill. Movement&#039;s are supposed to be on the right side of history, not the convenient side of foundation funding and party politics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Brian &#8211; you know something is wrong when big fossil fuel companies and the youth climate movement support the same climate bill. Movement&#8217;s are supposed to be on the right side of history, not the convenient side of foundation funding and party politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/06/26/failed-climate-policy-what-you-should-know-about-acesa/#comment-79644</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree totally.  The bill stinks 5 ways to Sunday but...  I blame all those who did not get off their ass and call their Congressman and Senator as much as I blame our Reps for listening to the interests of Coal and Oil who obviously did lobby.  If you did not make a call or write a letter or OPED a newspaper you&#039;ve got no one to blame but yourself.  That said I do think we need to have something on the books before the fall run up to Copenhagen.  (Man I wish it were better though).  So here&#039;s my plan.  The bill now goes back to the Senate for one last round.  I&#039;m going to lobby every Senator I can reach as hard as I can to make these changes http://pdamerica.org/articles/news/2009-06-23-02-39-15-news.php  God help us all if we blow this!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree totally.  The bill stinks 5 ways to Sunday but&#8230;  I blame all those who did not get off their ass and call their Congressman and Senator as much as I blame our Reps for listening to the interests of Coal and Oil who obviously did lobby.  If you did not make a call or write a letter or OPED a newspaper you&#8217;ve got no one to blame but yourself.  That said I do think we need to have something on the books before the fall run up to Copenhagen.  (Man I wish it were better though).  So here&#8217;s my plan.  The bill now goes back to the Senate for one last round.  I&#8217;m going to lobby every Senator I can reach as hard as I can to make these changes <a href="http://pdamerica.org/articles/news/2009-06-23-02-39-15-news.php" rel="nofollow">http://pdamerica.org/articles/news/2009-06-23-02-39-15-news.php</a>  God help us all if we blow this!</p>
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		<title>By: The Understory &#187; Will Hillary Clinton Let the World&#8217;s Dirtiest Oil Sneak Into the U.S.?</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/06/26/failed-climate-policy-what-you-should-know-about-acesa/#comment-79642</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Understory &#187; Will Hillary Clinton Let the World&#8217;s Dirtiest Oil Sneak Into the U.S.?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Sands oil sneak into the U.S. through the back door - at the same time as Congress is considering (watered-down) climate change legislation - she&#8217;d probably rather it stay a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sands oil sneak into the U.S. through the back door &#8211; at the same time as Congress is considering (watered-down) climate change legislation &#8211; she&#8217;d probably rather it stay a [...]</p>
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