Comments on: The Third Fossil Fuel: Or, What are We Willing to Settle For? http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/05/28/the-third-fossil-fuel-or-what-are-we-willing-to-settle-for/ Dispatches from the Youth Climate Movement Sun, 06 May 2012 08:12:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: The Third Fossil Fuel: Or, What are We Willing to Settle For? | Rising Tide North America http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/05/28/the-third-fossil-fuel-or-what-are-we-willing-to-settle-for/#comment-79120 Sun, 31 May 2009 23:32:54 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=10918#comment-79120 [...] The Third Fossil Fuel: Or, What are We Willing to Settle For? [...]

]]> By: Natural Gas « The Dernogalizer http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/05/28/the-third-fossil-fuel-or-what-are-we-willing-to-settle-for/#comment-79118 Sun, 31 May 2009 21:41:32 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=10918#comment-79118 [...] I saw on different environmental blogs.  One was talking about the havoc being wrought by the third fossil fuel.  The other discussed the incredible potential for the current natural gas plants we have to [...]

]]> By: R Margolis http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/05/28/the-third-fossil-fuel-or-what-are-we-willing-to-settle-for/#comment-79063 Fri, 29 May 2009 11:11:52 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=10918#comment-79063 Although not a big fan of natural gas, I must remind that it dominated power generation expansion in the 1990′s (over 200GW in the US were built). Even Amory Lovins mistakenly includes gas in his charts showing it along with renewables (lsited as Combined Heat and Power, CHP). Its ease of construction, low labor costs, and quick return on capital make natural gas the fuel to beat.

]]> By: G.R.L. Cowan, H2 energy fan until ~1996 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/05/28/the-third-fossil-fuel-or-what-are-we-willing-to-settle-for/#comment-79044 Thu, 28 May 2009 20:17:08 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=10918#comment-79044 Part of the cost of natural gas from anywhere is pipeline disasters such as the New Mexico one in 2000 and the Ghislenghien one more recently.

If, rather than travelling in large pipes such as those, to large plants that burn it to make electricity, it is retailed through a network of smaller pipes to burners in houses and offices, it makes heat there more efficiently than if the electricity plants had sent electricity there to be dissipated in a resistor.

But the cost of this efficiency, in death and injury, is very high; just this month, just in the USA, numerous firefighters were injured in two blasts, one at an apartment building, another at a shopping mall.

]]> By: Kai Bosworth http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/05/28/the-third-fossil-fuel-or-what-are-we-willing-to-settle-for/#comment-79043 Thu, 28 May 2009 19:50:40 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/?p=10918#comment-79043 Great article! In order to truly kick “natural” gas though, we’ll have to completely rethink clean energy systems. Natural gas is currently used to backup wind power when the wind isn’t blowing. A bunch of changes will have to be made to our clean energy plans if we’re gonna kick it.

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