Comments on: Waxman-Markey Could Give 2.5 Times More Money to Foreign Offsets than U.S. Clean Energy

By: Decarbonator

Decarbonator — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:57:45 +0000

this discussion conveniently omits the fact that another billion tons of home-grown, job creation domestic offsets are also allowed in the cap a trade. And 1.5 billion foreign offsets will be allowed if and only if there are not enough domestic offsets.

Let’s compare apples and apples, not energy efficiency and foreign offsets.

By: Decarbonator

Decarbonator — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:46:45 +0000

between a third and two thirds (…)do not represent actual emission cuts. That 100% margin of error. Maybe Michael Wara is correct but with margin of error like this the study is not serious. Don’t they have statistics dept at Stanford?

By: Jesse Jenkins

Jesse Jenkins — Fri, 29 May 2009 20:59:52 +0000

Matt, you can simply take Joe Romm at his word (which also trashes Greenpeace as Teryn notes), or you can do some of your own independent thinking and analysis. Our analysis in each of these posts has been 100% transparent, and we welcome anyone who points out errors or inconsistencies. As everyone here at IGHIH knows, there's far too much at stake to not look honestly and critically at what this bill will or will not actually accomplish. For other respected voices who've taken a close look at the ACES bill and come away very concerned: here's a joint statement from... Greenpeace USA * Friends of the Earth * Public Citizen * Citizen Power * Center for Biological Diversity * Citizens Action Coalition of Indiana * TURN—The Utility Reform Network * Sustainable Energy & Economy Network * Green Delaware * Massachusetts Environmental Energy Alliance * Massachusetts Forest Watch * Coal Moratorium Now! * Rainforest Action Network * International Rivers * Energy Justice Network Here's DailyKos blogger A. Siegel who says "we should be clear that the bill, as drafted, falls far short of what is necessary and, well, quite likely falls short of what is possible" and cites officials at the U.S. Energy Information Administration who corroborate the findings of our independent analysis of the ACES cap and trade and renewable electricity provisions. And here's climate blog, SolveClimate's in-depth look at the provisions that protect the coal industry in the bill, "Clean Energy Climate Bill Gives Coal a Competitive Future."

By: Teryn Norris

Teryn Norris — Sat, 23 May 2009 21:26:33 +0000

Unfortunately, Joe Romm has become the “enforcer” on this bill, aggressively attacking groups (including Greenpeace) who have tried to illuminate its shortcomings. We correct his misrepresentations here: http://thebreakthrough.org/blog/2009/05/romm_attacks_breakthrough_for.shtml

By: Matt Dernoga

Matt Dernoga — Fri, 22 May 2009 23:42:40 +0000

Please read this in response by Romm before making judgements

http://climateprogress.org/2009/05/22/waxman-markey-offsets-breakthrough-institute-shellenberger-nordhaus-media/