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	<description>Dispatches from the Youth Climate Movement</description>
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		<title>By: Monsanto Refuses Angry Mermaid Award &#171; Action Factory DC Blog</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/03/18/new-guide-to-bogus-climate-change-solutions-released/#comment-84575</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Monsanto Refuses Angry Mermaid Award &#171; Action Factory DC Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] climate profiteers&#8216; counter-evolution, undermining sustainable technology by lobbying for false solutions to the CO2 emissions crisis. Monsanto&#8217;s prime false solution is leading the proprietary GMO [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] climate profiteers&#8216; counter-evolution, undermining sustainable technology by lobbying for false solutions to the CO2 emissions crisis. Monsanto&#8217;s prime false solution is leading the proprietary GMO [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Monsanto Refuses Angry Mermaid Award in DC &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Monsanto Refuses Angry Mermaid Award in DC &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] climate profiteers&#8216; counter-evolution, undermining sustainable technology by lobbying for false solutions to the CO2 emissions crisis. Monsanto&#8217;s prime false solution is leading the proprietary GMO [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] climate profiteers&#8216; counter-evolution, undermining sustainable technology by lobbying for false solutions to the CO2 emissions crisis. Monsanto&#8217;s prime false solution is leading the proprietary GMO [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Monsanto Refuses Angry Mermaid Award in DC &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/03/18/new-guide-to-bogus-climate-change-solutions-released/#comment-84574</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Monsanto Refuses Angry Mermaid Award in DC &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] climate profiteers&#8216; counter-evolution, undermining sustainable technology by lobbying for false solutions to the CO2 emissions crisis. Monsanto&#8217;s prime false solution is leading the proprietary GMO [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] climate profiteers&#8216; counter-evolution, undermining sustainable technology by lobbying for false solutions to the CO2 emissions crisis. Monsanto&#8217;s prime false solution is leading the proprietary GMO [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/03/18/new-guide-to-bogus-climate-change-solutions-released/#comment-76849</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Milan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The booklet was almost entirely negative, and seemed to offer no realistic solutions itself.&quot;

I agree. It is just a series of complaints, not a document that actually helps us progress towards a zero-carbon future.

We don&#039;t have the luxury of rejecting any form of energy that has any problems whatsoever. Yes, dams flood forest. Yes, nuclear is risky. Yes, wind turbines kill bats. Despite all that, we need low- and zero-carbon energy sources if we are to deal with climate change without returning ourselves to the dark ages.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The booklet was almost entirely negative, and seemed to offer no realistic solutions itself.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree. It is just a series of complaints, not a document that actually helps us progress towards a zero-carbon future.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have the luxury of rejecting any form of energy that has any problems whatsoever. Yes, dams flood forest. Yes, nuclear is risky. Yes, wind turbines kill bats. Despite all that, we need low- and zero-carbon energy sources if we are to deal with climate change without returning ourselves to the dark ages.</p>
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		<title>By: Subprime Carbon: With &#8220;solutions&#8221; like these, who needs problems? &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/03/18/new-guide-to-bogus-climate-change-solutions-released/#comment-73155</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Subprime Carbon: With &#8220;solutions&#8221; like these, who needs problems? &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] For more information on this and other bogus climate solutions, check out Rising Tide&#8217;s new guidebook, Hoodwinked in the Hothouse. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For more information on this and other bogus climate solutions, check out Rising Tide&#8217;s new guidebook, Hoodwinked in the Hothouse. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Coal’s Funeral Procession &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/03/18/new-guide-to-bogus-climate-change-solutions-released/#comment-72716</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coal’s Funeral Procession &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] from fossil fuels (more than oil or gas).  Despite industry&#8217;s attempts to fool us with false solutions like &#8220;clean coal,&#8221; and carbon, capture and storage (CCS), the only path towards a clean [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from fossil fuels (more than oil or gas).  Despite industry&#8217;s attempts to fool us with false solutions like &#8220;clean coal,&#8221; and carbon, capture and storage (CCS), the only path towards a clean [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Understory &#187; Coal&#8217;s Funeral Procession</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/03/18/new-guide-to-bogus-climate-change-solutions-released/#comment-72713</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Understory &#187; Coal&#8217;s Funeral Procession]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] from fossil fuels (more than oil or gas). Despite industry&#8217;s attempts to fool us with false solutions like &#8220;clean coal,&#8221; and carbon, capture and storage (CCS), the only path towards a clean [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from fossil fuels (more than oil or gas). Despite industry&#8217;s attempts to fool us with false solutions like &#8220;clean coal,&#8221; and carbon, capture and storage (CCS), the only path towards a clean [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Leland Palmer</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/03/18/new-guide-to-bogus-climate-change-solutions-released/#comment-72515</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leland Palmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The booklet was almost entirely negative, and seemed to offer no realistic solutions itself. 

As an advocate of carbon negative energy such as biochar and biomass/carbon storage, I found it disturbing and disquieting to have biochar (a genuinely good idea, I think) lumped in with more risky geoengineering strategies as seeding the atmosphere with sulfur particulates.

Trying to visualize the problem, it appears to me that without carbon negative energy such as biomass with carbon capture and storage or biochar, the climate will soon pass tipping points, and will spiral out of control. The eventual outcome if we do nothing will be a methane catastrophe, I believe. 

Environmentalists need to be logical, flexible, and pragmatic as well during this crisis. We need to implement solutions that really work, no matter whose sacred cow gets gored. If we need to plant millions of acres of biomass plantations, and deep inject the CO2 into the earth in order to stop runaway global warming, then we will have to do this, regardless of the sensitivities of environmentalists.

I believe myself that we need to seize the coal fired power plants, and convert them into oxyfuel combustion, biocarbon fuel, and carbon sequestration. Nothing else can take the necessary billions of tons of carbon out of the atmosphere in time to avert runaway global warming leading to a methane catastrophe. We need carbon negative energy, such as biochar or biomass with carbon capture and storage, on a massive scale.

It&#039;s carbon negative energy or watch the climate destabilize and the biosphere die.

If environmentalists love the biosphere, they need to be logical, reasonable, and flexible. Nothing but science and intelligence will get us out of the terrible fix we have put ourselves in.

www.killerinourmidst.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The booklet was almost entirely negative, and seemed to offer no realistic solutions itself. </p>
<p>As an advocate of carbon negative energy such as biochar and biomass/carbon storage, I found it disturbing and disquieting to have biochar (a genuinely good idea, I think) lumped in with more risky geoengineering strategies as seeding the atmosphere with sulfur particulates.</p>
<p>Trying to visualize the problem, it appears to me that without carbon negative energy such as biomass with carbon capture and storage or biochar, the climate will soon pass tipping points, and will spiral out of control. The eventual outcome if we do nothing will be a methane catastrophe, I believe. </p>
<p>Environmentalists need to be logical, flexible, and pragmatic as well during this crisis. We need to implement solutions that really work, no matter whose sacred cow gets gored. If we need to plant millions of acres of biomass plantations, and deep inject the CO2 into the earth in order to stop runaway global warming, then we will have to do this, regardless of the sensitivities of environmentalists.</p>
<p>I believe myself that we need to seize the coal fired power plants, and convert them into oxyfuel combustion, biocarbon fuel, and carbon sequestration. Nothing else can take the necessary billions of tons of carbon out of the atmosphere in time to avert runaway global warming leading to a methane catastrophe. We need carbon negative energy, such as biochar or biomass with carbon capture and storage, on a massive scale.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s carbon negative energy or watch the climate destabilize and the biosphere die.</p>
<p>If environmentalists love the biosphere, they need to be logical, reasonable, and flexible. Nothing but science and intelligence will get us out of the terrible fix we have put ourselves in.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.killerinourmidst.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.killerinourmidst.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: R Margolis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R Margolis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have examples such as China that are heavy into renewables (solar, wind, hydro) as well as nuclear.  I have no problem with countries individually deciding what solutions (and in what amounts) work best for them.  As for the export question, even if you reduce energy production for export their own development needs are going to drive energy demand higher.  China and India currently have lower per capita electric use rates than Japan or Switzerland (among the more energy efficient countries).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have examples such as China that are heavy into renewables (solar, wind, hydro) as well as nuclear.  I have no problem with countries individually deciding what solutions (and in what amounts) work best for them.  As for the export question, even if you reduce energy production for export their own development needs are going to drive energy demand higher.  China and India currently have lower per capita electric use rates than Japan or Switzerland (among the more energy efficient countries).</p>
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		<title>By: Cascadia Brian</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2009/03/18/new-guide-to-bogus-climate-change-solutions-released/#comment-72276</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cascadia Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The last pages (conclusion) of the booklet speak a good bit to this. Here&#039;s the gist -

REALTY CHECK: social justice, climate and environmental justice concerned activists live JUST AS MUCH in the developing world as the developed world. 

Indeed, it is these environmentalists who have been foremost in calling out &quot;false solutions.&quot;

We should let them lead on energy practices in their country (in both their own national *as well as* international policy) just as we want strive to take the lead on practices for *our* country -- especially considering how much of their energy production is for export or for production of products for export and is, in reality *OUR* consumption.

The alternative - that the 1st world&#039;s climate advocate&#039;s views should for some twisted reason trump environmentalists views in the Global South, as if they had a poorer understanding of their country&#039;s energy politics or the risks of climate change to their livelihoods than we do! -- is IMHO absurd, and suggests a colonialist understanding of the developing world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last pages (conclusion) of the booklet speak a good bit to this. Here&#8217;s the gist -</p>
<p>REALTY CHECK: social justice, climate and environmental justice concerned activists live JUST AS MUCH in the developing world as the developed world. </p>
<p>Indeed, it is these environmentalists who have been foremost in calling out &#8220;false solutions.&#8221;</p>
<p>We should let them lead on energy practices in their country (in both their own national *as well as* international policy) just as we want strive to take the lead on practices for *our* country &#8212; especially considering how much of their energy production is for export or for production of products for export and is, in reality *OUR* consumption.</p>
<p>The alternative &#8211; that the 1st world&#8217;s climate advocate&#8217;s views should for some twisted reason trump environmentalists views in the Global South, as if they had a poorer understanding of their country&#8217;s energy politics or the risks of climate change to their livelihoods than we do! &#8212; is IMHO absurd, and suggests a colonialist understanding of the developing world.</p>
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