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	<title>Comments on: Obama Gives In on Offshore Drilling</title>
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	<description>Dispatches from the Youth Climate Movement</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Stuart</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/08/02/obama-gives-in-on-offshore-drilling/#comment-66978</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Morgan.

It seems that you are honestly committed to change and not simply supporting the party line no matter what they decide.  Some elephants would be wise learn from that kind of independent, critical analysis.

I too am committed to re-framing the energy debate.  Along that line, I would be remiss not point out that there are some here who will ignore the positive contributions that nuclear energy has made - and has yet to make - in helping wean our dependence on fossil fuels. I find myself coming here often to help debunk some of what appears to be closed-minded railing against anything having to do with the use of the atom, regardless of whether it's for peaceful or malevolent purposes.

Thanks for the breath of fresh air, and I thanks for taking the high road - even when I didn't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Morgan.</p>
<p>It seems that you are honestly committed to change and not simply supporting the party line no matter what they decide.  Some elephants would be wise learn from that kind of independent, critical analysis.</p>
<p>I too am committed to re-framing the energy debate.  Along that line, I would be remiss not point out that there are some here who will ignore the positive contributions that nuclear energy has made - and has yet to make - in helping wean our dependence on fossil fuels. I find myself coming here often to help debunk some of what appears to be closed-minded railing against anything having to do with the use of the atom, regardless of whether it&#8217;s for peaceful or malevolent purposes.</p>
<p>Thanks for the breath of fresh air, and I thanks for taking the high road - even when I didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan Goodwin</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/08/02/obama-gives-in-on-offshore-drilling/#comment-66973</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan Goodwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael - you're right to call us out - we should be holding our leaders accountable, not giving in.  I don't think I said he's still right when he changes his mind.  I said "I also don’t hold it against Obama for compromising."  Its close, and I fully concede your point.  

Our job is to create the bottom up change that this country needs so that we can be pushing our leaders to take more, not less ambitious stances.  I guess I'm more interested in re-framing the whole debate on energy than denouncing poor decisions I see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael - you&#8217;re right to call us out - we should be holding our leaders accountable, not giving in.  I don&#8217;t think I said he&#8217;s still right when he changes his mind.  I said &#8220;I also don’t hold it against Obama for compromising.&#8221;  Its close, and I fully concede your point.  </p>
<p>Our job is to create the bottom up change that this country needs so that we can be pushing our leaders to take more, not less ambitious stances.  I guess I&#8217;m more interested in re-framing the whole debate on energy than denouncing poor decisions I see.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Stuart</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/08/02/obama-gives-in-on-offshore-drilling/#comment-66970</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Bush and the right’s solution is to begin offshore drilling. Offshore drilling could cause even more irreparable harm to eco-systems, communities and the climate."   - Gas Struggles Become Class Struggles, itsgettinghotinhere.org, June 28, 2008

Hmmm... I guess Obama can do no wrong.  He's right to oppose it last week, and he's still right when he changes his mind?  Quite a reverse double standard you have going isn't it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bush and the right’s solution is to begin offshore drilling. Offshore drilling could cause even more irreparable harm to eco-systems, communities and the climate.&#8221;   - Gas Struggles Become Class Struggles, itsgettinghotinhere.org, June 28, 2008</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230; I guess Obama can do no wrong.  He&#8217;s right to oppose it last week, and he&#8217;s still right when he changes his mind?  Quite a reverse double standard you have going isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Shock shock shocking</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/08/02/obama-gives-in-on-offshore-drilling/#comment-66956</link>
		<dc:creator>Shock shock shocking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Change comes last to the politicians in Washington D.C.

The politicians aren't movements, they follow where our communities lead.  Frankly, U.S. based movements and communities haven't been as strong as the corporations for many many years.  Otherwise we wouldn't have crises such as economic disparity, the Iraq war and climate change.

The past 30-40 years we've let them get away with murder [literally] because we think change comes when we elect new politicians.  Hardly.  Now we are overwhelmed with dirty energy, privatized wars, home foreclosures and a global economic system based on the teachings of Milton Friedman and the Chicago Boys.  [Check out Naomi Klein's "The Shock Docrine" and her regular articles in the Nation to get the skinny on that.]

Obama thinks bombing Iran and offshore drilling are good ideas.  Get ready for the New New Democrats and their version of the Shock Doctrine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Change comes last to the politicians in Washington D.C.</p>
<p>The politicians aren&#8217;t movements, they follow where our communities lead.  Frankly, U.S. based movements and communities haven&#8217;t been as strong as the corporations for many many years.  Otherwise we wouldn&#8217;t have crises such as economic disparity, the Iraq war and climate change.</p>
<p>The past 30-40 years we&#8217;ve let them get away with murder [literally] because we think change comes when we elect new politicians.  Hardly.  Now we are overwhelmed with dirty energy, privatized wars, home foreclosures and a global economic system based on the teachings of Milton Friedman and the Chicago Boys.  [Check out Naomi Klein's "The Shock Docrine" and her regular articles in the Nation to get the skinny on that.]</p>
<p>Obama thinks bombing Iran and offshore drilling are good ideas.  Get ready for the New New Democrats and their version of the Shock Doctrine.</p>
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		<title>By: Mattie Reitman</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/08/02/obama-gives-in-on-offshore-drilling/#comment-66950</link>
		<dc:creator>Mattie Reitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 05:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, I dig Morgan's previous response:

"When is he going to help turn that inspiration towards doing something more concrete for the country than helping him get elected? Nov 5th?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, I dig Morgan&#8217;s previous response:</p>
<p>&#8220;When is he going to help turn that inspiration towards doing something more concrete for the country than helping him get elected? Nov 5th?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mattie Reitman</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/08/02/obama-gives-in-on-offshore-drilling/#comment-66949</link>
		<dc:creator>Mattie Reitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 05:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The time between the primaries and the elections = Democrats water down and sell out!

I don't think this is something we can keep from happening, and find it best just to assume this will come, and prepare for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The time between the primaries and the elections = Democrats water down and sell out!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think this is something we can keep from happening, and find it best just to assume this will come, and prepare for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/08/02/obama-gives-in-on-offshore-drilling/#comment-66943</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think Obama would talk about something that he knows not to be true.  No, inflating tires won't end our energy crisis BUT NEITHER WILL OFFSHORE DRILLING.  

The more important point here is that neither drilling or inflating tires is an inspiring message of how we're going to end our energy crisis.  Investing massively in alternatives, public transportation and energy efficiency technicians and stronger, healthier communities will end our energy crisis and involve everyone in the solution.   We don't need to tell everyone to inflate their tires, we need to involve everyone in the energy effort (like the war effort of our grandparents).

Obama has been so good at inspiring people to get involved in leadership positions in his campaign (hosting house parties, training youth as organizers, creative fund raising efforts, etc). When is he going to help turn that inspiration towards doing something more concrete for the country than helping him get elected?  Nov 5th?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Obama would talk about something that he knows not to be true.  No, inflating tires won&#8217;t end our energy crisis BUT NEITHER WILL OFFSHORE DRILLING.  </p>
<p>The more important point here is that neither drilling or inflating tires is an inspiring message of how we&#8217;re going to end our energy crisis.  Investing massively in alternatives, public transportation and energy efficiency technicians and stronger, healthier communities will end our energy crisis and involve everyone in the solution.   We don&#8217;t need to tell everyone to inflate their tires, we need to involve everyone in the energy effort (like the war effort of our grandparents).</p>
<p>Obama has been so good at inspiring people to get involved in leadership positions in his campaign (hosting house parties, training youth as organizers, creative fund raising efforts, etc). When is he going to help turn that inspiration towards doing something more concrete for the country than helping him get elected?  Nov 5th?</p>
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		<title>By: Compassionate Badger</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/08/02/obama-gives-in-on-offshore-drilling/#comment-66934</link>
		<dc:creator>Compassionate Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 01:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That YouTube video is a good one to point out b/c conservative commentators are already attacking these Democratic "alternatives" . . . Obviously, Senator Obama knows that inflating our tires is not going to end our energy crisis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That YouTube video is a good one to point out b/c conservative commentators are already attacking these Democratic &#8220;alternatives&#8221; . . . Obviously, Senator Obama knows that inflating our tires is not going to end our energy crisis.</p>
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