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	<title>Comments on: Dear King Coal, We’re Not Kidding! 8 Arrested in Ohio Coal Plant Action</title>
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	<description>Dispatches from the Youth Climate Movement</description>
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		<title>By: App Voices</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is there a reason you are so belligerent?  Maybe you should get off the internet, this is obviously getting to you]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a reason you are so belligerent?  Maybe you should get off the internet, this is obviously getting to you</p>
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		<title>By: App Voices</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[App Voices]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Post the link to the EIA site.

I love mountains and the App voices website get their info from the Environmental Protection Agency and the Appalachian Regional Commission (A federal-state partnership established by Congress to support economic development in the Appalachian Region.)

What is EIA?  Where do they get their info.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post the link to the EIA site.</p>
<p>I love mountains and the App voices website get their info from the Environmental Protection Agency and the Appalachian Regional Commission (A federal-state partnership established by Congress to support economic development in the Appalachian Region.)</p>
<p>What is EIA?  Where do they get their info.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanya</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tanya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Uh, you work for the coal industry that&#039;s pretty obvious.  And you want us to buy coal powered electricity, so why are you making these outher arguments about sacrifice and alternatives?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, you work for the coal industry that&#8217;s pretty obvious.  And you want us to buy coal powered electricity, so why are you making these outher arguments about sacrifice and alternatives?</p>
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		<title>By: App Voices</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/07/08/dear-king-coal-we%e2%80%99re-not-kidding-8-arrested-in-ohio-coal-plant-fight/#comment-66538</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey Stark-- When are you going to cite your research on mountaintop removal.  When are you going to cite facts on how we don&#039;t live eco-friendly lives?  I mean you obviously have some insight that we don&#039;t.

Put up or shut up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey Stark&#8211; When are you going to cite your research on mountaintop removal.  When are you going to cite facts on how we don&#8217;t live eco-friendly lives?  I mean you obviously have some insight that we don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Put up or shut up.</p>
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		<title>By: App Voices</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stark--   you are presuming a lot, accusing a lot and don&#039;t know what you are talking about.  

your accusations against the youth climate movement are ludicrous.  it&#039;s a right wing ploy to say we don&#039;t practice what we preach when you don&#039;t know any of us or our current lifestyle habits.

i&#039;ve yet to see you post any sort of sources or real research that backs up anything you say.  please cite sources for your presumptions and accusations.

otherwise you are just part of the right wing noise machine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stark&#8211;   you are presuming a lot, accusing a lot and don&#8217;t know what you are talking about.  </p>
<p>your accusations against the youth climate movement are ludicrous.  it&#8217;s a right wing ploy to say we don&#8217;t practice what we preach when you don&#8217;t know any of us or our current lifestyle habits.</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve yet to see you post any sort of sources or real research that backs up anything you say.  please cite sources for your presumptions and accusations.</p>
<p>otherwise you are just part of the right wing noise machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Kai Bosworth</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/07/08/dear-king-coal-we%e2%80%99re-not-kidding-8-arrested-in-ohio-coal-plant-fight/#comment-66477</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kai Bosworth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do you keep assuming that we&#039;re not disrupting our own lives as well? Or does it only count as disrupting when we, youth and college students with not a wealth of money, spend $20,000-40,000 of dollars on a personal renewable energy system?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you keep assuming that we&#8217;re not disrupting our own lives as well? Or does it only count as disrupting when we, youth and college students with not a wealth of money, spend $20,000-40,000 of dollars on a personal renewable energy system?</p>
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		<title>By: Julia Bonds</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julia Bonds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Stark,

 it is the people living in the coal extraction communities about 30 miles from the privledged town of Beckley that are suffering for their and your convenience--I know because I live in the sacrificec zone there down stream of  Beckley.  

We are blasted by 3 and 1/2 million pounds of explosives daily and our water is being poisoned with sludge--our air poisoned with coal dust and silica dust. Even if the industry owned the mountain tops that doesn&#039;t give the absentee land owners the right to blast and poison those us us that live downstream--not to mention that Every one lives down stream. 

I am a coal miners daughter and grand daughter ---my father died of black lung and I know about the evils of the coal industry---Don&#039;t you or any city slicker from Beckley dare tell us about coal or coal mining.

The answer is to switch to renewables NOW! And it is your job to make our government make the switch]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Stark,</p>
<p> it is the people living in the coal extraction communities about 30 miles from the privledged town of Beckley that are suffering for their and your convenience&#8211;I know because I live in the sacrificec zone there down stream of  Beckley.  </p>
<p>We are blasted by 3 and 1/2 million pounds of explosives daily and our water is being poisoned with sludge&#8211;our air poisoned with coal dust and silica dust. Even if the industry owned the mountain tops that doesn&#8217;t give the absentee land owners the right to blast and poison those us us that live downstream&#8211;not to mention that Every one lives down stream. </p>
<p>I am a coal miners daughter and grand daughter &#8212;my father died of black lung and I know about the evils of the coal industry&#8212;Don&#8217;t you or any city slicker from Beckley dare tell us about coal or coal mining.</p>
<p>The answer is to switch to renewables NOW! And it is your job to make our government make the switch</p>
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		<title>By: App Voices</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/07/08/dear-king-coal-we%e2%80%99re-not-kidding-8-arrested-in-ohio-coal-plant-fight/#comment-66435</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[App Voices]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stark

Please cite the sources of your MTR research.  Mine are http://www.appvoices.org/ and ilovemountains.org.  

They site sources like the EPA and the Appalachian Regional Commission (A federal-state partnership established by Congress to support economic development in the Appalachian Region.)  

I think you either don&#039;t know what you are talking about or pushing coal industry propaganda.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stark</p>
<p>Please cite the sources of your MTR research.  Mine are <a href="http://www.appvoices.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.appvoices.org/</a> and ilovemountains.org.  </p>
<p>They site sources like the EPA and the Appalachian Regional Commission (A federal-state partnership established by Congress to support economic development in the Appalachian Region.)  </p>
<p>I think you either don&#8217;t know what you are talking about or pushing coal industry propaganda.</p>
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		<title>By: Kai Bosworth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kai Bosworth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;A&lt;/i&gt; concern troll&lt;i&gt; is a false flag pseudonym created by a user whose point of view is opposed to the one that the user&#039;s sockpuppet claims to hold. The concern troll posts in web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group&#039;s actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals, but with professed &quot;concerns&quot;. The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt within the group&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>A</i> concern troll<i> is a false flag pseudonym created by a user whose point of view is opposed to the one that the user&#8217;s sockpuppet claims to hold. The concern troll posts in web forums devoted to its declared point of view and attempts to sway the group&#8217;s actions or opinions while claiming to share their goals, but with professed &#8220;concerns&#8221;. The goal is to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt within the group</i></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nick Magel said: &quot;They may have realized the amount of $ Gov. Strickland has taken from AMP, and maybe decided to do something about it.&quot;

Two words: Prove it.

All money donated to a politician by law must be recorded. Gov. Strickland is above board. While some don&#039;t always believe in his politics, he is WAY better than his predecessor, Bob Graft (or was it Taft?).

How cynical of the political system are you? Big Business - whether it is a utility, or not, runs the commerce, industry, and the world. Would you rather be in China and have the oppression of their government on you? IMO, you got off too easy - in other countries, you wouldn&#039;t have the rights that you do have: Due process; Bail; Your time in court. The police that protect me also protect you. In this day and age, post-9/11, Homeland Security, local police/sheriff departments, and federal officials are much less likely to look at disruption of business as a &quot;peaceful demonstration&quot; or whatever you are calling (non-violent - ok, so bashing pots &amp; pans and firing air-horns inside confined spaces can create dB&#039;s of close to 120-140dB - the equivalent to an airplane taking off - I&#039;d call that violent to my ears!) and more as something that will disrupt the American Way.

Use your education - it is obvious that you have one. I like the historical references regarding others who have protested. But to liken yourselves to people who were oppressed as a race and as opponents to political upheaval is a disgrace to those who got you the rights you now enjoy.

What powers your Internet, your computer, your phone, your lights... And what are you doing to reduce your draw on the electric grid? What are you doing to educate others on WHY they need to do this? I am all for reducing our need to expand the electric grid - and for an expansion of alternative energies and methods. But the bottom line is that until this message gets out to ALL Americans, ALL users of electricity, ALL our kids, we will continue to have a need for an expansion of the base power supply.  I am all for nuclear - how about you? No carbon. but other issues. Wind? All for it - but look at the issues companies are having getting the turbines sited. NIMBY is alive and well. When will you use your actions for educating the masses - not causing upheaval in a small place. Your tactics are not going to cause a multi-billion dollar project to stop. Educate the masses and make the plants unnecessary, and you will truly be SUCCESSFUL and have something to be proud of.

r.s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick Magel said: &#8220;They may have realized the amount of $ Gov. Strickland has taken from AMP, and maybe decided to do something about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Two words: Prove it.</p>
<p>All money donated to a politician by law must be recorded. Gov. Strickland is above board. While some don&#8217;t always believe in his politics, he is WAY better than his predecessor, Bob Graft (or was it Taft?).</p>
<p>How cynical of the political system are you? Big Business &#8211; whether it is a utility, or not, runs the commerce, industry, and the world. Would you rather be in China and have the oppression of their government on you? IMO, you got off too easy &#8211; in other countries, you wouldn&#8217;t have the rights that you do have: Due process; Bail; Your time in court. The police that protect me also protect you. In this day and age, post-9/11, Homeland Security, local police/sheriff departments, and federal officials are much less likely to look at disruption of business as a &#8220;peaceful demonstration&#8221; or whatever you are calling (non-violent &#8211; ok, so bashing pots &amp; pans and firing air-horns inside confined spaces can create dB&#8217;s of close to 120-140dB &#8211; the equivalent to an airplane taking off &#8211; I&#8217;d call that violent to my ears!) and more as something that will disrupt the American Way.</p>
<p>Use your education &#8211; it is obvious that you have one. I like the historical references regarding others who have protested. But to liken yourselves to people who were oppressed as a race and as opponents to political upheaval is a disgrace to those who got you the rights you now enjoy.</p>
<p>What powers your Internet, your computer, your phone, your lights&#8230; And what are you doing to reduce your draw on the electric grid? What are you doing to educate others on WHY they need to do this? I am all for reducing our need to expand the electric grid &#8211; and for an expansion of alternative energies and methods. But the bottom line is that until this message gets out to ALL Americans, ALL users of electricity, ALL our kids, we will continue to have a need for an expansion of the base power supply.  I am all for nuclear &#8211; how about you? No carbon. but other issues. Wind? All for it &#8211; but look at the issues companies are having getting the turbines sited. NIMBY is alive and well. When will you use your actions for educating the masses &#8211; not causing upheaval in a small place. Your tactics are not going to cause a multi-billion dollar project to stop. Educate the masses and make the plants unnecessary, and you will truly be SUCCESSFUL and have something to be proud of.</p>
<p>r.s.</p>
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