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	<title>Comments on: RAND (not RAN) Study of Future Environmental Networks</title>
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	<description>Dispatches from the Youth Climate Movement</description>
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		<title>By: forces and trends analysis</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/06/12/rand-not-ran-study-of-future-environmental-networks/#comment-66019</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[forces and trends analysis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] are spending their time thinking about evolving organizing models and the future of our movements Ihttp://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/06/12/rand-not-ran-study-of-future-environmental-networks/Zimbabwe: An African Disease? AllAfrica.comallAfrica: African news and information for a global [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are spending their time thinking about evolving organizing models and the future of our movements Ihttp://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/06/12/rand-not-ran-study-of-future-environmental-networks/Zimbabwe: An African Disease? AllAfrica.comallAfrica: African news and information for a global [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sparki</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sparki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think they were more interested in examining the organizing model of horizontal/leaderless/decentralized networks, and less on the issue centric scenarios of energy prices.  

Check out the netwar and networks book that they put out and i linked above. they talk about current leaderless networks already in existence.  everything from Battle in Seattle activists and the Zapatistas to terrorists and drug cartels.  with a rapidly de-polarizing geo-political/economic system and the rise of non-state actors, their main concern how to deal with leaderless movements and networks.

Globally this is already happening.  it&#039;s happened around Islamic fundamentalism and global justice movements.  it&#039;s now just catching on in U.S. social movements [and when i say social movement, i am using a very broad definition]. 

The frame, tactics and strategies known as the &quot;Global War On Terror&quot; [GWOT] originated at RAND.  the GWOT has been applied to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;domestic enviro/global justice/anti-war groups&lt;/a&gt; now as well.

The more networked, empowered and organized we get on a global level, the more we&#039;ll see the RAND Corp develop strategies and scenarios to counter us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they were more interested in examining the organizing model of horizontal/leaderless/decentralized networks, and less on the issue centric scenarios of energy prices.  </p>
<p>Check out the netwar and networks book that they put out and i linked above. they talk about current leaderless networks already in existence.  everything from Battle in Seattle activists and the Zapatistas to terrorists and drug cartels.  with a rapidly de-polarizing geo-political/economic system and the rise of non-state actors, their main concern how to deal with leaderless movements and networks.</p>
<p>Globally this is already happening.  it&#8217;s happened around Islamic fundamentalism and global justice movements.  it&#8217;s now just catching on in U.S. social movements [and when i say social movement, i am using a very broad definition]. </p>
<p>The frame, tactics and strategies known as the &#8220;Global War On Terror&#8221; [GWOT] originated at RAND.  the GWOT has been applied to <a href="http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/" rel="nofollow">domestic enviro/global justice/anti-war groups</a> now as well.</p>
<p>The more networked, empowered and organized we get on a global level, the more we&#8217;ll see the RAND Corp develop strategies and scenarios to counter us.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Morgan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, this is really exciting and terrifying to read.  The thought of people organizing around environmental responsibility and social justice globally would.... mean the end of the world as we know it!

Its funny they don&#039;t seem to mention anything about the price of energy in a future where we&#039;ve failed to address fossil fuel consumption.  That would be the biggest thing to work in here - how much does a business response to rising energy correspond to these &#039;terrorists&#039; one?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, this is really exciting and terrifying to read.  The thought of people organizing around environmental responsibility and social justice globally would&#8230;. mean the end of the world as we know it!</p>
<p>Its funny they don&#8217;t seem to mention anything about the price of energy in a future where we&#8217;ve failed to address fossil fuel consumption.  That would be the biggest thing to work in here &#8211; how much does a business response to rising energy correspond to these &#8216;terrorists&#8217; one?</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Hough</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/06/12/rand-not-ran-study-of-future-environmental-networks/#comment-65077</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesse Hough]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the global climate movement part of this future, but not the radical terrorist attack part. . .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the global climate movement part of this future, but not the radical terrorist attack part. . .</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Dashiell</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/06/12/rand-not-ran-study-of-future-environmental-networks/#comment-65068</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Dashiell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peace, justice, and environmental sanity--the establishment&#039;s worst nightmare.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peace, justice, and environmental sanity&#8211;the establishment&#8217;s worst nightmare.</p>
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		<title>By: Today In eAction News // 06.12.08 &#124; Make Something Happen</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/06/12/rand-not-ran-study-of-future-environmental-networks/#comment-65065</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Today In eAction News // 06.12.08 &#124; Make Something Happen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] In 2025, there will be a grand net-war. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In 2025, there will be a grand net-war. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Steed</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/06/12/rand-not-ran-study-of-future-environmental-networks/#comment-65063</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex Steed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am absolutely speechless. How do I train for this war? I am a VERY good instant messager.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am absolutely speechless. How do I train for this war? I am a VERY good instant messager.</p>
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