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		<title>By: Angela Joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys..read about alternative energy sources.(not the general articles.) the scientific once and find out how much energy can be produces using them.Oil and nuclear power have been always projected as the main supplæies bcoz the ppl making money from them want to continue making money.If anybody of you find it diffcult to locate the related articles,please go to www.zeitgeistmonie.com and watch the sequel of the Zeitgeist Movie .Here,Jacques Fresco, explains of how the alternative enrgy can be used effectively.I wolnt be visiting the blog again.The ppl who find it difficult to identify with the youths striking here clearly don´t have insight into neoliberalism,free trade and free markets and the manipulative actions of the US till now and also the foreign policy of US.Also suggest you to read the essay by Noam Chomsky-&quot;US Foriegn Policy&quot;.Its really insightful and gives lots of facts.I hope we all together can build a better society for our children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys..read about alternative energy sources.(not the general articles.) the scientific once and find out how much energy can be produces using them.Oil and nuclear power have been always projected as the main supplæies bcoz the ppl making money from them want to continue making money.If anybody of you find it diffcult to locate the related articles,please go to <a href="http://www.zeitgeistmonie.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.zeitgeistmonie.com</a> and watch the sequel of the Zeitgeist Movie .Here,Jacques Fresco, explains of how the alternative enrgy can be used effectively.I wolnt be visiting the blog again.The ppl who find it difficult to identify with the youths striking here clearly don´t have insight into neoliberalism,free trade and free markets and the manipulative actions of the US till now and also the foreign policy of US.Also suggest you to read the essay by Noam Chomsky-&#8221;US Foriegn Policy&#8221;.Its really insightful and gives lots of facts.I hope we all together can build a better society for our children.</p>
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		<title>By: Godhra Train`Conspiracy’ and Indo US Nuke deal: Condense Muslim Hate Based Global Hegemony Justifies Ethnic Cleansing! &#171; Palashbiswaskl&#8217;s Weblog</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Youth Protest Indo-US Nuclear Deal « It’s Getting Hot In Here 19 Mar 2008 &#8230; The Indo-US Nuclear deal, also known as the “1, 2, 3″ Deal has been full of controversy ever since its inception. &#8230; itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/03/19/youth-protest-indo-us-nuclear-deal/ - 47k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Youth Protest Indo-US Nuclear Deal « It’s Getting Hot In Here 19 Mar 2008 &#8230; The Indo-US Nuclear deal, also known as the “1, 2, 3″ Deal has been full of controversy ever since its inception. &#8230; itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/03/19/youth-protest-indo-us-nuclear-deal/ &#8211; 47k &#8211; Cached &#8211; Similar pages &#8211; Note this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/03/19/youth-protest-indo-us-nuclear-deal/#comment-66936</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 05:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad our prime minister went ahead with this historic deal against all the bulwarks opposing it.Some of the obvious merits of the deal are:
1) India, a non-signatory of the NPT &amp; CTBT gets the nuclear weapons states
   status.
2) India can walk away from the deal &amp; can conduct nuclear tests but will get
   sufficient uranium fuel for its reactors to operate at maximum output 
   hitherto.
3) As per the separation plan, only civilian nuclear facilities will be 
   inspected by the IAEA.
4) This deal ends the 30 year of nuclear apartheid because of which India has
   been isolated &amp; deprived of the latest nuclear technology which would have
   lended impetus to its long term nuclear plans.

   Lets debate the issue of energy security.Nuclear power contributes less than 
   3% to our energy,meagre by any standards.Over the next decade this can
   increase to upto 10%,still way less than oil &amp; coal but substantial.Everyone 
   witnessed the way crude oil prices dealt a sever blow to our economy &amp; 
   spurred inflation to double digits.Yes, agreed, to some extent this deal &amp; 
   India&#039;s proximity to US puts the IPI gas pipeline deal in jeopardy but 
   then we cant turn a blind eye to environment friendly nuclear energy.India 
   has 30% thorium reserves but is yet to develop the technology to harness it.
   Once she does, we will have electricity cheaper than that produced from
   coal. 
   The technology and the uranium fuel for its reactors would propel the 
   nuclear programme which has stagnated in the last 3 decades.India needs to 
   emulate France where nuclear power contributes 70% to its energy needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad our prime minister went ahead with this historic deal against all the bulwarks opposing it.Some of the obvious merits of the deal are:<br />
1) India, a non-signatory of the NPT &amp; CTBT gets the nuclear weapons states<br />
   status.<br />
2) India can walk away from the deal &amp; can conduct nuclear tests but will get<br />
   sufficient uranium fuel for its reactors to operate at maximum output<br />
   hitherto.<br />
3) As per the separation plan, only civilian nuclear facilities will be<br />
   inspected by the IAEA.<br />
4) This deal ends the 30 year of nuclear apartheid because of which India has<br />
   been isolated &amp; deprived of the latest nuclear technology which would have<br />
   lended impetus to its long term nuclear plans.</p>
<p>   Lets debate the issue of energy security.Nuclear power contributes less than<br />
   3% to our energy,meagre by any standards.Over the next decade this can<br />
   increase to upto 10%,still way less than oil &amp; coal but substantial.Everyone<br />
   witnessed the way crude oil prices dealt a sever blow to our economy &amp;<br />
   spurred inflation to double digits.Yes, agreed, to some extent this deal &amp;<br />
   India&#8217;s proximity to US puts the IPI gas pipeline deal in jeopardy but<br />
   then we cant turn a blind eye to environment friendly nuclear energy.India<br />
   has 30% thorium reserves but is yet to develop the technology to harness it.<br />
   Once she does, we will have electricity cheaper than that produced from<br />
   coal.<br />
   The technology and the uranium fuel for its reactors would propel the<br />
   nuclear programme which has stagnated in the last 3 decades.India needs to<br />
   emulate France where nuclear power contributes 70% to its energy needs.</p>
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		<title>By: R Margolis</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/03/19/youth-protest-indo-us-nuclear-deal/#comment-66815</link>
		<dc:creator>R Margolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like NIRS does not know the difference between the RBMK and current designs.  Modern reactors such as the AP-1000 or ESBWR (not to mention current light water reactors) cannot have run-away nuclear reactions like Chernobyl.  TMI was much more localized because the driver of the accident was the decay heat rather than the chain reaction.  It is physically impossible for a light water reactor to undergo a chain reaction explosion like a bomb [re: Sagar&#039;s comment].

I don&#039;t believe I have claimed that nuclear has no issues, only that it is a strong contender for a transition source (especially if the energy storage technologies do not pan out).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like NIRS does not know the difference between the RBMK and current designs.  Modern reactors such as the AP-1000 or ESBWR (not to mention current light water reactors) cannot have run-away nuclear reactions like Chernobyl.  TMI was much more localized because the driver of the accident was the decay heat rather than the chain reaction.  It is physically impossible for a light water reactor to undergo a chain reaction explosion like a bomb [re: Sagar's comment].</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe I have claimed that nuclear has no issues, only that it is a strong contender for a transition source (especially if the energy storage technologies do not pan out).</p>
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		<title>By: Mattie Reitman</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/03/19/youth-protest-indo-us-nuclear-deal/#comment-66814</link>
		<dc:creator>Mattie Reitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoa.  hey y&#039;all, nuclear power is scary, and it&#039;s certainly not an answer to climate change.

&quot;Adding enough nuclear power to make a meaningful reduction in greenhouse gas emissions would cost trillions of dollars, create tens of thousands of tons of lethal high-level radioactive waste, contribute to further proliferation of nuclear weapons materials, result in a Chernobyl-scale accident once every decade or so, and, perhaps most significantly, squander the resources necessary to implement meaningful climate change mitigation policies.&quot;

http://www.nirs.org/climate/climate.htm

No Coal, No Nukes, No Kidding.

http://energyjustice.net/nuclear</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoa.  hey y&#8217;all, nuclear power is scary, and it&#8217;s certainly not an answer to climate change.</p>
<p>&#8220;Adding enough nuclear power to make a meaningful reduction in greenhouse gas emissions would cost trillions of dollars, create tens of thousands of tons of lethal high-level radioactive waste, contribute to further proliferation of nuclear weapons materials, result in a Chernobyl-scale accident once every decade or so, and, perhaps most significantly, squander the resources necessary to implement meaningful climate change mitigation policies.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nirs.org/climate/climate.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nirs.org/climate/climate.htm</a></p>
<p>No Coal, No Nukes, No Kidding.</p>
<p><a href="http://energyjustice.net/nuclear" rel="nofollow">http://energyjustice.net/nuclear</a></p>
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		<title>By: navya</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/03/19/youth-protest-indo-us-nuclear-deal/#comment-66803</link>
		<dc:creator>navya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 13:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think there is no need of such a deal with sucha dangerous country instead developing technologies in our country and trying to effort money for developing individually is better than sigininig a deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think there is no need of such a deal with sucha dangerous country instead developing technologies in our country and trying to effort money for developing individually is better than sigininig a deal.</p>
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		<title>By: sagar</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/03/19/youth-protest-indo-us-nuclear-deal/#comment-66766</link>
		<dc:creator>sagar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>may be TMI was minor 
but in us major nuclear explosiond have taken place which were 30 to 40 times more stronger than hiroshima &amp; nagasaki atomic explosions

TO R MARGOLIS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>may be TMI was minor<br />
but in us major nuclear explosiond have taken place which were 30 to 40 times more stronger than hiroshima &amp; nagasaki atomic explosions</p>
<p>TO R MARGOLIS</p>
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		<title>By: Why Indo-US Nuclear Deal When Oceans can Give Clean Energy &#124; MarineBuzz.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why Indo-US Nuclear Deal When Oceans can Give Clean Energy &#124; MarineBuzz.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] points against the deal as comments by Protik Maitra from North Carolina in &#8216; Youth protest Indo - US nuclear deal [...]</description>
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		<title>By: dr veeri</title>
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		<dc:creator>dr veeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 10:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we may need nuclear deal with US for many purposes like energy, geopoliticle strategy etc etc but it should not take away us from our basic tenants of NAM which remained our mark of identification &amp; also helped us during testing times in the past 40 years. At the same time we must think about our neighbouring countries, how are they perciving the deal. It should also not act as a suger coated pill which will have long term adverse consiquences like that of east india company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we may need nuclear deal with US for many purposes like energy, geopoliticle strategy etc etc but it should not take away us from our basic tenants of NAM which remained our mark of identification &amp; also helped us during testing times in the past 40 years. At the same time we must think about our neighbouring countries, how are they perciving the deal. It should also not act as a suger coated pill which will have long term adverse consiquences like that of east india company.</p>
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		<title>By: Protik Maitra (North Carolina)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Protik Maitra (North Carolina)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many who support this deal, while many who oppose this deal. Those who are saying that the Left is opposing the deal, are not correct. The left has 9 points which they want to be addressed, some of them are:

1. Hyde Act, which is a US domestic act, put many Indian N-facilities under their jurisdiction, and therefore, will be able to force the US government to pressurise the NSG (which works on consensus) to stop supplying Nuclear Fuel to India, should India do something that the US does not like. For exmaple, the Indian Parliament condemned the NATO attack on Iraq without UN sanction. This shows India&#039;s foreign policy is independent. It will not be any more with Hyde Act in place.
2. Australia, which has the highest known Uranium reserves, continues the sell Uranium to China, a clear proliferator, and US, which used N-Bombs on Japan, yet shows double standards towards selling Uranium to India. The 1-2-3 Agreement does not address that concern.
3. Indian army is deployed in Afghanistan and India send supplies to them via Iran. India is also building a railway line connecting Iranian shore and Iran-Afghan border. Iran can be a vital source for the Gas-Pipeline project, which will be beneficial to India. We need that energy resource, since we cannot run cars and buses with nuclear generated electricity. We need oil for that. Adopting an anti-Iran posture under pressure from US will hamper India&#039;s energy security and military presense in Afghanistan.
4. India is still being judged from the fact that India is a NPT-non-signatory, which in itself is discriminatory. 
5. The US is trying to sell India N-technology that is meant from Uranium Reactors, for which, India will have to spend her resources to buy or build reactors using Uranium. This would make India dependent on foreign Uranium imports.
6. India has 25% of the world knows Thorium resources, which, would be a better way to invest India&#039;s resources on, than on Uranium based old technology, that the US is trying to sell.
7. To separate Civil and Military N-facilities in India will incur enormous cost, which, till date, has not been confidently estimated by BARC. That would be a great overhead on our economy. Not to mention the years, if not decades, it will take to complete the separation process.
8. Keeping the above in mind, opening up our facilities for foreign inspection will cause leakage of our N-secrets and will compromise our N-deterrent.
9. Many scientists in BARC have openly admitted their concerns regarding this deal, which has not been addressed by the government.
10. The deal will place many Indian facilities under foreign scrutiny for perpetuity, yet, there is not guarantee that Uranium will be made available to India till perpetuity.

True, we need N-power, but at what cost are we getting it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many who support this deal, while many who oppose this deal. Those who are saying that the Left is opposing the deal, are not correct. The left has 9 points which they want to be addressed, some of them are:</p>
<p>1. Hyde Act, which is a US domestic act, put many Indian N-facilities under their jurisdiction, and therefore, will be able to force the US government to pressurise the NSG (which works on consensus) to stop supplying Nuclear Fuel to India, should India do something that the US does not like. For exmaple, the Indian Parliament condemned the NATO attack on Iraq without UN sanction. This shows India&#8217;s foreign policy is independent. It will not be any more with Hyde Act in place.<br />
2. Australia, which has the highest known Uranium reserves, continues the sell Uranium to China, a clear proliferator, and US, which used N-Bombs on Japan, yet shows double standards towards selling Uranium to India. The 1-2-3 Agreement does not address that concern.<br />
3. Indian army is deployed in Afghanistan and India send supplies to them via Iran. India is also building a railway line connecting Iranian shore and Iran-Afghan border. Iran can be a vital source for the Gas-Pipeline project, which will be beneficial to India. We need that energy resource, since we cannot run cars and buses with nuclear generated electricity. We need oil for that. Adopting an anti-Iran posture under pressure from US will hamper India&#8217;s energy security and military presense in Afghanistan.<br />
4. India is still being judged from the fact that India is a NPT-non-signatory, which in itself is discriminatory.<br />
5. The US is trying to sell India N-technology that is meant from Uranium Reactors, for which, India will have to spend her resources to buy or build reactors using Uranium. This would make India dependent on foreign Uranium imports.<br />
6. India has 25% of the world knows Thorium resources, which, would be a better way to invest India&#8217;s resources on, than on Uranium based old technology, that the US is trying to sell.<br />
7. To separate Civil and Military N-facilities in India will incur enormous cost, which, till date, has not been confidently estimated by BARC. That would be a great overhead on our economy. Not to mention the years, if not decades, it will take to complete the separation process.<br />
8. Keeping the above in mind, opening up our facilities for foreign inspection will cause leakage of our N-secrets and will compromise our N-deterrent.<br />
9. Many scientists in BARC have openly admitted their concerns regarding this deal, which has not been addressed by the government.<br />
10. The deal will place many Indian facilities under foreign scrutiny for perpetuity, yet, there is not guarantee that Uranium will be made available to India till perpetuity.</p>
<p>True, we need N-power, but at what cost are we getting it?</p>
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