Comments on: 2007: A Rough Year for Coal – 59 plants Canceled! http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/ Dispatches from the Youth Climate Movement Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:42:46 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: A Spooked Coal Industry Fights Back, Trying to Buy Elections « It’s Getting Hot In Here http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-61233 A Spooked Coal Industry Fights Back, Trying to Buy Elections « It’s Getting Hot In Here Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:32:01 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-61233 [...] on the ground in primary states. We’re fighting proposed coal plants across the country and beating back the coal rush. We’ve pushed banks to scrutinize investments in dirty energy. We’re spending our [...] [...] on the ground in primary states. We’re fighting proposed coal plants across the country and beating back the coal rush. We’ve pushed banks to scrutinize investments in dirty energy. We’re spending our [...]

]]> By: R Margolis http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-60827 R Margolis Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:54:31 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-60827 Also commodity prices have sharply risen which has made all new power plant construction more expensive (even wind turbines and solar thermal). Many utilities have put off their plans in an attempt to let prices level off. Also commodity prices have sharply risen which has made all new power plant construction more expensive (even wind turbines and solar thermal). Many utilities have put off their plans in an attempt to let prices level off.

]]> By: pgonsk http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-60819 pgonsk Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:36:36 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-60819 2007 was actually a record year for coal. Companies are so busy building them that we do not have enough people to do work. We needed to almost double our size in the next few years to handle all the coal plants under development. Most plants were cancelled b/c the owners did not get the necessary permits to start construction. It's only a matter of time before they do and start building. 2007 was actually a record year for coal. Companies are so busy building them that we do not have enough people to do work. We needed to almost double our size in the next few years to handle all the coal plants under development. Most plants were cancelled b/c the owners did not get the necessary permits to start construction. It’s only a matter of time before they do and start building.

]]> By: jessejenkins http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-60781 jessejenkins Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:53:46 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-60781 So many trolls, so little time! Folks, as Jamie said, we are certainly doing something right when we attract the attention of trolls for not only the coal industry, but the nuclear industry as well in a single post. Keep writing and keep acting up and keep watching the coal plants fizzle! So many trolls, so little time! Folks, as Jamie said, we are certainly doing something right when we attract the attention of trolls for not only the coal industry, but the nuclear industry as well in a single post. Keep writing and keep acting up and keep watching the coal plants fizzle!

]]> By: Take Direct Action Against the Fossil Fool’s « It’s Getting Hot In Here http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-60773 Take Direct Action Against the Fossil Fool’s « It’s Getting Hot In Here Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:28:09 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-60773 [...] and individuals taking place across the globe.  It will be a day to amplify our voices against the climate profiteers, earth destroyers and financial and governmental institutions which empower [...] [...] and individuals taking place across the globe.  It will be a day to amplify our voices against the climate profiteers, earth destroyers and financial and governmental institutions which empower [...]

]]> By: Roger http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-60692 Roger Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:08:24 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-60692 Nope - as I mentioned before, I'm not employed by the industry. I'm someone that knows we can't eliminate a fuel source that accounts for more than half our electricity! So...you want to get rid of coal? What do you have to replace it and what happens to the electricity bills of people who even today have to choose between heating their homes and eating??? Nope – as I mentioned before, I’m not employed by the industry.

I’m someone that knows we can’t eliminate a fuel source that accounts for more than half our electricity!

So…you want to get rid of coal? What do you have to replace it and what happens to the electricity bills of people who even today have to choose between heating their homes and eating???

]]> By: jamiehenn http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-60676 jamiehenn Sat, 19 Jan 2008 07:14:09 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-60676 Hey all, It's great to have Roger here on the blog - he can dispute me, but I think he's working with Americans for Balanced Energy Choices which is a coal industry funded campaign to do some good old fashioned green washing. Among other things, they're down here in South Carolina where I'm working showing up at candidate events to try and convince voters about clean coal. Better yet, they're spending over $250,000 on radio ads in the state to encourage voters to "Ask the candidates about clean coal" - I'll try and get an audio copy to post, it's pretty classic. Seems like they're also paying people to patrol the blogs or maybe Roger's just a concerned citizen. Either way, welcome Roger, glad to have you here - and here's to the spirited discussion. If you're down in SC, perhaps we can meet up in person. There was a great Washington Post article on this campaign which I think someone will blog on soon, but for now, here's a link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/17/AR2008011702837.html Here's to attracting the eye of industry folks! You're doing something right. Cheers, J Hey all,

It’s great to have Roger here on the blog – he can dispute me, but I think he’s working with Americans for Balanced Energy Choices which is a coal industry funded campaign to do some good old fashioned green washing. Among other things, they’re down here in South Carolina where I’m working showing up at candidate events to try and convince voters about clean coal.

Better yet, they’re spending over $250,000 on radio ads in the state to encourage voters to “Ask the candidates about clean coal” – I’ll try and get an audio copy to post, it’s pretty classic. Seems like they’re also paying people to patrol the blogs or maybe Roger’s just a concerned citizen. Either way, welcome Roger, glad to have you here – and here’s to the spirited discussion. If you’re down in SC, perhaps we can meet up in person.

There was a great Washington Post article on this campaign which I think someone will blog on soon, but for now, here’s a link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/17/AR2008011702837.html

Here’s to attracting the eye of industry folks! You’re doing something right.

Cheers,
J

]]> By: Evan Webb http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-60673 Evan Webb Sat, 19 Jan 2008 04:18:47 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-60673 Roger, It's not my fault I was born into a way of "living" dependent on fossil fuels. My responsibility comes in what I do with this life as it's been presented to me. This is not a matter of running away to the woods, because there is no longer anywhere to escape. But I can do something to work for the transformation of a death-system, even if that means I use, ohmygod, fossil fuels in the process. also, why are you so worried that i'm a hypocrite? are you jesus or something? Evan Roger,

It’s not my fault I was born into a way of “living” dependent on fossil fuels. My responsibility comes in what I do with this life as it’s been presented to me. This is not a matter of running away to the woods, because there is no longer anywhere to escape. But I can do something to work for the transformation of a death-system, even if that means I use, ohmygod, fossil fuels in the process. also, why are you so worried that i’m a hypocrite? are you jesus or something?

Evan

]]> By: R Margolis http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-60670 R Margolis Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:08:56 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-60670 I can see carbon sequestration buying time with coal (it is over 50% of US electricity) to allow other energy sources to be developed. Both wind and nuclear can be built faster if the proponents could cut a deal with the opposition. In Japan and Korea, nuclear plants can be built in 4-5 years because they have the same folks building the same design. Maybe I am too much the engineer, but I could see a combination of geothermal, nuclear, and carbon sequestered coal as the bridge until we figure out our next step. I can see carbon sequestration buying time with coal (it is over 50% of US electricity) to allow other energy sources to be developed. Both wind and nuclear can be built faster if the proponents could cut a deal with the opposition. In Japan and Korea, nuclear plants can be built in 4-5 years because they have the same folks building the same design.

Maybe I am too much the engineer, but I could see a combination of geothermal, nuclear, and carbon sequestered coal as the bridge until we figure out our next step.

]]> By: Roger http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-60667 Roger Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:52:36 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/17/2007-a-rough-year-for-coal-59-plants-cancelled/#comment-60667 In fact....chances are all you people live off coal every day unless you live life without electricity. So...it's hypocritical to bash our most secure, affordable energy source when in fact, each of you use it! Another question? Do you drive a car? Does that car not emit pollutants as well? Furthermore...coal is what's able to help you actually afford electricity! What's the answer to that? And no...I'm not an employee of the coal industry....just some one who is rational and agrees we can invest in technology to solve a problem (just like everything else)! In fact….chances are all you people live off coal every day unless you live life without electricity.

So…it’s hypocritical to bash our most secure, affordable energy source when in fact, each of you use it!

Another question? Do you drive a car? Does that car not emit pollutants as well?

Furthermore…coal is what’s able to help you actually afford electricity!

What’s the answer to that?

And no…I’m not an employee of the coal industry….just some one who is rational and agrees we can invest in technology to solve a problem (just like everything else)!

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