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		<title>By: "on the fence" jamie</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/08/why-im-voting-for-obama/#comment-68652</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA["on the fence" jamie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You never once mentioned a good reason why to vote for Obama. Yah, we all want change. But it&#039;s like he is just giving us the feeling that things will change. I am not convinced. I just dont get it. What about him raising taxes for the big business owners?? Everything we buy is going to be more expensive!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You never once mentioned a good reason why to vote for Obama. Yah, we all want change. But it&#8217;s like he is just giving us the feeling that things will change. I am not convinced. I just dont get it. What about him raising taxes for the big business owners?? Everything we buy is going to be more expensive!!</p>
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		<title>By: jennybedellstiles</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jaime, great post!  I appreciated your candor and enthusiasm.  I too am an Edwards fan because he has the strongest policy ideas for climate change and isn&#039;t indebted to big business.  However, your point is taken that Obama may be the best candidate because he catalyzes our sense of possibility.  This pushes me to ask one question: Do we need a president with the best policy ideas, or one with good policy ideas who inspires us to be empowered?  And damn, I&#039;m thinking it&#039;s the latter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaime, great post!  I appreciated your candor and enthusiasm.  I too am an Edwards fan because he has the strongest policy ideas for climate change and isn&#8217;t indebted to big business.  However, your point is taken that Obama may be the best candidate because he catalyzes our sense of possibility.  This pushes me to ask one question: Do we need a president with the best policy ideas, or one with good policy ideas who inspires us to be empowered?  And damn, I&#8217;m thinking it&#8217;s the latter.</p>
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		<title>By: jessejenkins</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/08/why-im-voting-for-obama/#comment-60156</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jessejenkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;As you say, the crowds for Obama are excited about doing something. I just wonder what that “something” is that Obama has planned.&quot;

Mr. Proud American, I think the point Jamie is trying to make doesn&#039;t have to do with what &lt;em&gt;Obama&lt;/em&gt; has planned, it has to do with what &lt;em&gt;we&lt;/em&gt; have planned: a broad-based movement calling for an end to the climate crisis and fighting for a sustainable, just, and prosperous future for all.  

Jamie has made the best case I&#039;ve heard yet for why we - the members of the youth climate movement - should support Obama: because he&#039;s creating the environment for &lt;em&gt;our&lt;/em&gt; movement to grow, and we all have a pretty strong interest in that.

I&#039;ve been a strong Edwards supporter.  He seems to me to be both the most progressive, populist candidate on just about all fronts and yet also seems to find a way to talk to independents, moderates and conservatives without immediately turning them off.  Despite being strongly progressive, he matches up very well against all the Rs in a general and is highly &quot;electable.&quot;  Most importantly to me, he has shown the most leadership on climate and energy issues, coming out with a strong climate/energy plan very early on and he should be credited with driving Obama and Clinton to take stronger stands.  More than that, he seems to &quot;get it&quot; better than anyone else: climate is clearly a top priority for him, and he&#039;s convinced me early on that he understands both the scale of the problem and the commitment required of the response.  

Clinton seems to get it now, or at least she has done her homework and has smart people around her. She&#039;s also taken whole stock the green jobs platform from 1 Sky/Power Shift/Step it Up, which is excellent, and she&#039;s got the economic opportunity messaging down pat. But to me, it seems like climate is just another of six or so policy issues for Clinton, not one of her top one or two priorities, and she seems the least likely to unite broad-based support for strong climate policy and a clean energy future.

Obama has a good solid climate/energy plan now too (about six months after Edwards&#039; plan and a week or so after Clinton&#039;s if I remember correctly), and he sprinkles it into his stump speeches.  But he has yet to convince me that he is really committed to the issue, or that he isn&#039;t just saying it because he has to, because Edwards and groups like LCV - &lt;em&gt;and us&lt;/em&gt; - have made it clear he has to talk about climate. 

All that being said, Jamie&#039;s case to support Obama is a good one - not for his policies, or for his personal commitment to climate, but because of his apparent ability to spark a &quot;movement mentality&quot; in this country, and to empower every day citizens - &lt;em&gt;and young people&lt;/em&gt; - with a feeling that they can collectively change the world.  That would be a &lt;em&gt;huge&lt;/em&gt; boon in our efforts to create a movement for a sustainable, just, and prosperous future, and may trump a candidates&#039; policy positions, as long as we&#039;re convinced Obama will be receptive to our movement - to the movement he will help spark, even if unintentionally - once elected.

We can&#039;t rely on a president - any candidate - to change the world for us.  It&#039;s our future at stake, and it&#039;s foolish to put that future in the hands of any candidate or President, no matter how good they are.  We&#039;re going to have to create the change we want to see, &lt;em&gt;and we can!&lt;/em&gt;  If Obama helps convince millions more young people that they can indeed create the change &lt;em&gt;they&lt;/em&gt; want to see - forget what Obama wants to see - then he could be our most effective ally on the campaign trail, and in the White House.

We should continue our already highly successful efforts to drive the candidates to take stronger and stronger positions during the elections.  And at the same time, we should start preparing to push climate into the top of the priority list for whichever candidate moves into the White House in January 2009.  Our work will not be over in November 2008, but through diligent efforts over the next 10 months, we&#039;ll be in the right position in 2009 to capitalize and make the critical push for strong federal action (&lt;em&gt;finally!&lt;/em&gt;).  

Eye on the prize folks...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As you say, the crowds for Obama are excited about doing something. I just wonder what that “something” is that Obama has planned.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr. Proud American, I think the point Jamie is trying to make doesn&#8217;t have to do with what <em>Obama</em> has planned, it has to do with what <em>we</em> have planned: a broad-based movement calling for an end to the climate crisis and fighting for a sustainable, just, and prosperous future for all.  </p>
<p>Jamie has made the best case I&#8217;ve heard yet for why we &#8211; the members of the youth climate movement &#8211; should support Obama: because he&#8217;s creating the environment for <em>our</em> movement to grow, and we all have a pretty strong interest in that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a strong Edwards supporter.  He seems to me to be both the most progressive, populist candidate on just about all fronts and yet also seems to find a way to talk to independents, moderates and conservatives without immediately turning them off.  Despite being strongly progressive, he matches up very well against all the Rs in a general and is highly &#8220;electable.&#8221;  Most importantly to me, he has shown the most leadership on climate and energy issues, coming out with a strong climate/energy plan very early on and he should be credited with driving Obama and Clinton to take stronger stands.  More than that, he seems to &#8220;get it&#8221; better than anyone else: climate is clearly a top priority for him, and he&#8217;s convinced me early on that he understands both the scale of the problem and the commitment required of the response.  </p>
<p>Clinton seems to get it now, or at least she has done her homework and has smart people around her. She&#8217;s also taken whole stock the green jobs platform from 1 Sky/Power Shift/Step it Up, which is excellent, and she&#8217;s got the economic opportunity messaging down pat. But to me, it seems like climate is just another of six or so policy issues for Clinton, not one of her top one or two priorities, and she seems the least likely to unite broad-based support for strong climate policy and a clean energy future.</p>
<p>Obama has a good solid climate/energy plan now too (about six months after Edwards&#8217; plan and a week or so after Clinton&#8217;s if I remember correctly), and he sprinkles it into his stump speeches.  But he has yet to convince me that he is really committed to the issue, or that he isn&#8217;t just saying it because he has to, because Edwards and groups like LCV &#8211; <em>and us</em> &#8211; have made it clear he has to talk about climate. </p>
<p>All that being said, Jamie&#8217;s case to support Obama is a good one &#8211; not for his policies, or for his personal commitment to climate, but because of his apparent ability to spark a &#8220;movement mentality&#8221; in this country, and to empower every day citizens &#8211; <em>and young people</em> &#8211; with a feeling that they can collectively change the world.  That would be a <em>huge</em> boon in our efforts to create a movement for a sustainable, just, and prosperous future, and may trump a candidates&#8217; policy positions, as long as we&#8217;re convinced Obama will be receptive to our movement &#8211; to the movement he will help spark, even if unintentionally &#8211; once elected.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t rely on a president &#8211; any candidate &#8211; to change the world for us.  It&#8217;s our future at stake, and it&#8217;s foolish to put that future in the hands of any candidate or President, no matter how good they are.  We&#8217;re going to have to create the change we want to see, <em>and we can!</em>  If Obama helps convince millions more young people that they can indeed create the change <em>they</em> want to see &#8211; forget what Obama wants to see &#8211; then he could be our most effective ally on the campaign trail, and in the White House.</p>
<p>We should continue our already highly successful efforts to drive the candidates to take stronger and stronger positions during the elections.  And at the same time, we should start preparing to push climate into the top of the priority list for whichever candidate moves into the White House in January 2009.  Our work will not be over in November 2008, but through diligent efforts over the next 10 months, we&#8217;ll be in the right position in 2009 to capitalize and make the critical push for strong federal action (<em>finally!</em>).  </p>
<p>Eye on the prize folks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/08/why-im-voting-for-obama/#comment-60135</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leslie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was a great post -- I too have been so moved by Obama. Your words resonated with me and I hope you don&#039;t mind, but I quoted you on my blog where I was writing about Youth voting and civic engagement. We need this man to lead our country and if the youth would mobilize, they can decide who will be our next president.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a great post &#8212; I too have been so moved by Obama. Your words resonated with me and I hope you don&#8217;t mind, but I quoted you on my blog where I was writing about Youth voting and civic engagement. We need this man to lead our country and if the youth would mobilize, they can decide who will be our next president.</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptical...</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/08/why-im-voting-for-obama/#comment-60111</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skeptical...]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 04:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All about Obama:
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=90&amp;ItemID=14670]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All about Obama:<br />
<a href="http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=90&#038;ItemID=14670" rel="nofollow">http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=90&#038;ItemID=14670</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Ewall</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/08/why-im-voting-for-obama/#comment-60105</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Ewall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 02:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama voted for the most anti-environmental bill ever to pass 
congress: the pro-nuclear, pro-coal, pro-ethanol &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.energyjustice.net/energybill/epact2005.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Energy Policy Act of 
2005&lt;/a&gt;.  He hasn&#039;t changed his tune much, since he also voted for the 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.energyjustice.net/energybill/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;energy bill this legislative session&lt;/a&gt; (over the summer; he failed to vote on its 
final passage).  This bill included lots of dirty stuff, and Obama didn&#039;t exactly speak out about the pro-nuke, pro-coal, pro-ethanol stuff in there.

In January 2007, Obama co-sponsored the Coal-to-Liquid Fuel Promotion 
Act of 2007 (S.155).  After being attacked over it, Obama took only a 
small step back from his promotion of coal-to-liquids -- claiming 
that he&#039;ll only support it if it can produce fewer greenhouse gas 
emissions than conventional oil refineries (which is impossible, 
meaning that they&#039;ll just do some screwy calculations to rationalize 
and mislead, while still promoting it).  He still sponsors S.155 and 
the bill still has no language that would incorporate Obama&#039;s 
backpeddling campaign promises about global warming criteria.

Exelon -- the nation&#039;s largest nuclear utility, based in Illinois 
(the #1 nuclear power state) -- by way of their corporate officials, 
is among Obama&#039;s top 6 campaign contributors.  Obama remains pro-nuclear.

Obama&#039;s support for ethanol, coal and nuclear has been pretty 
consistent and disgusting.  No honest environmentalist can truthfully 
say that he&#039;s &quot;be a great president&quot; on environmental issues.

On other issues, he&#039;s not much better... having voted in favor of 
numerous war funding bills, having refused to take the nuclear 
weapons option off the table with regard to U.S. using them on Iran 
or other countries, having joined recently with Clinton in support of 
the corporate-neoliberal North American Free Trade Agreement to Peru, 
having voted build 700 miles of double-layered fencing on the 
U.S.-Mexico border by the end of 2008, etc.

So, let&#039;s get real here.  If you want to play 
&quot;lesser&quot; evil with corporate puppets in democrat&#039;s clothing, that&#039;s 
your prerogative.  However, please let&#039;s not pretend that Obama, Clinton or even Edwards are somehow our friends on energy and environmental issues.  Their track records show otherwise and their corporate campaign contributions dictate otherwise even moreso.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama voted for the most anti-environmental bill ever to pass<br />
congress: the pro-nuclear, pro-coal, pro-ethanol <a href="http://www.energyjustice.net/energybill/epact2005.html" rel="nofollow">Energy Policy Act of<br />
2005</a>.  He hasn&#8217;t changed his tune much, since he also voted for the<br />
<a href="http://www.energyjustice.net/energybill/" rel="nofollow">energy bill this legislative session</a> (over the summer; he failed to vote on its<br />
final passage).  This bill included lots of dirty stuff, and Obama didn&#8217;t exactly speak out about the pro-nuke, pro-coal, pro-ethanol stuff in there.</p>
<p>In January 2007, Obama co-sponsored the Coal-to-Liquid Fuel Promotion<br />
Act of 2007 (S.155).  After being attacked over it, Obama took only a<br />
small step back from his promotion of coal-to-liquids &#8212; claiming<br />
that he&#8217;ll only support it if it can produce fewer greenhouse gas<br />
emissions than conventional oil refineries (which is impossible,<br />
meaning that they&#8217;ll just do some screwy calculations to rationalize<br />
and mislead, while still promoting it).  He still sponsors S.155 and<br />
the bill still has no language that would incorporate Obama&#8217;s<br />
backpeddling campaign promises about global warming criteria.</p>
<p>Exelon &#8212; the nation&#8217;s largest nuclear utility, based in Illinois<br />
(the #1 nuclear power state) &#8212; by way of their corporate officials,<br />
is among Obama&#8217;s top 6 campaign contributors.  Obama remains pro-nuclear.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s support for ethanol, coal and nuclear has been pretty<br />
consistent and disgusting.  No honest environmentalist can truthfully<br />
say that he&#8217;s &#8220;be a great president&#8221; on environmental issues.</p>
<p>On other issues, he&#8217;s not much better&#8230; having voted in favor of<br />
numerous war funding bills, having refused to take the nuclear<br />
weapons option off the table with regard to U.S. using them on Iran<br />
or other countries, having joined recently with Clinton in support of<br />
the corporate-neoliberal North American Free Trade Agreement to Peru,<br />
having voted build 700 miles of double-layered fencing on the<br />
U.S.-Mexico border by the end of 2008, etc.</p>
<p>So, let&#8217;s get real here.  If you want to play<br />
&#8220;lesser&#8221; evil with corporate puppets in democrat&#8217;s clothing, that&#8217;s<br />
your prerogative.  However, please let&#8217;s not pretend that Obama, Clinton or even Edwards are somehow our friends on energy and environmental issues.  Their track records show otherwise and their corporate campaign contributions dictate otherwise even moreso.</p>
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		<title>By: angeline3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[angeline3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 01:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Edwards might fight harder in Washington, and Kucinich might have better policies, and Hillary might be able to pull more strings&quot;

...I think that is a pretty good assessment of the candidates.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Edwards might fight harder in Washington, and Kucinich might have better policies, and Hillary might be able to pull more strings&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;I think that is a pretty good assessment of the candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: obama4democracy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[obama4democracy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[for those of you wondering about obama&#039;s campaign positions please go to barackobama.com and read his positions.  his speeches dont need to lay out specifics.

as for CTL, MTR, etc... Obama is an illinois state senator. yes he said he &quot;transcends normal politics&quot; but lets face it, hes covering his own ass. once he wins the presidency, which he WILL, his position on CTL, MTR can be changed. and its up to the citizens of the US to do it. 

he is different.  he cares what people say. he understands grassroots movements.  if we want to stop coal plants then we need to motivate people the way he does.  some of his supporters stood in the winter weather of NH for 2.5 hrs just to ensure they saw him speak this morning.  we need to be that motivational, why not start with a leader of our country that can do the same for us...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for those of you wondering about obama&#8217;s campaign positions please go to barackobama.com and read his positions.  his speeches dont need to lay out specifics.</p>
<p>as for CTL, MTR, etc&#8230; Obama is an illinois state senator. yes he said he &#8220;transcends normal politics&#8221; but lets face it, hes covering his own ass. once he wins the presidency, which he WILL, his position on CTL, MTR can be changed. and its up to the citizens of the US to do it. </p>
<p>he is different.  he cares what people say. he understands grassroots movements.  if we want to stop coal plants then we need to motivate people the way he does.  some of his supporters stood in the winter weather of NH for 2.5 hrs just to ensure they saw him speak this morning.  we need to be that motivational, why not start with a leader of our country that can do the same for us&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Morgan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 18:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jamie, thanks for a great post.  I&#039;m also going to be voting for Obama and have cheered every victory he&#039;s had so far.  It is important to feel good about being engaged, just as its important get more people, especially young people engaged.  Don&#039;t forget, Kennedy was slow and reticent in actually addressing the civil rights problem, but he helped create the atmosphere for that movement to grow.  I&#039;d much rather work for paradigm shift in a country engaged in politics and hopeful about its future than one where its leaders are locked in a continued debate over partisan politics.  Its not black and white, there are trade-offs to this view, I&#039;m not deluded.  But I am choosing and casting my vote.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie, thanks for a great post.  I&#8217;m also going to be voting for Obama and have cheered every victory he&#8217;s had so far.  It is important to feel good about being engaged, just as its important get more people, especially young people engaged.  Don&#8217;t forget, Kennedy was slow and reticent in actually addressing the civil rights problem, but he helped create the atmosphere for that movement to grow.  I&#8217;d much rather work for paradigm shift in a country engaged in politics and hopeful about its future than one where its leaders are locked in a continued debate over partisan politics.  Its not black and white, there are trade-offs to this view, I&#8217;m not deluded.  But I am choosing and casting my vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Webb</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Webb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[as others have said about obama&#039;s record with coal, obama is a tool. let&#039;s be honest. if you want to work to end destruction of the planet, you have to go after the profiteers -- the corporations. they won&#039;t stop doing what they&#039;re doing. they just won&#039;t. and if there&#039;s any hope that a corporate-funded fella like obama will do anything to stop corporations, that&#039;s simply false hope. actually, i think elections in general provide false hope.

that said, of the candidates kucinich is my favorite, but i&#039;ll vote for edwards because he&#039;s a feisty gent who obviously has a taste for the flesh of big business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as others have said about obama&#8217;s record with coal, obama is a tool. let&#8217;s be honest. if you want to work to end destruction of the planet, you have to go after the profiteers &#8212; the corporations. they won&#8217;t stop doing what they&#8217;re doing. they just won&#8217;t. and if there&#8217;s any hope that a corporate-funded fella like obama will do anything to stop corporations, that&#8217;s simply false hope. actually, i think elections in general provide false hope.</p>
<p>that said, of the candidates kucinich is my favorite, but i&#8217;ll vote for edwards because he&#8217;s a feisty gent who obviously has a taste for the flesh of big business.</p>
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