Comments on: Incredible! India not Inclined to Tackle Climate Change? http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/04/incredible-ndia-not-inclined-to-tackle-climate-change/ Dispatches from the Youth Climate Movement Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:08:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Derek Wall http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/04/incredible-ndia-not-inclined-to-tackle-climate-change/#comment-60331 Derek Wall Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:21:05 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/04/incredible-ndia-not-inclined-to-tackle-climate-change/#comment-60331 What about the Nano Tata car which is supposed to give millions of Indians the freedom to drive, have a look here for my take on this http://another-green-world.blogspot.com/2008/01/more-burning-cars-later.html What about the Nano Tata car which is supposed to give millions of Indians the freedom to drive, have a look here for my take on this http://another-green-world.blogspot.com/2008/01/more-burning-cars-later.html

]]> By: Jamie Henn http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/04/incredible-ndia-not-inclined-to-tackle-climate-change/#comment-59929 Jamie Henn Sun, 06 Jan 2008 06:14:44 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/04/incredible-ndia-not-inclined-to-tackle-climate-change/#comment-59929 Fantastic post - and thanks for bringing an increasingly international voice to this blog, here's to connecting the global youth climate movement. I think you have some excellent points. I especially enjoyed this quote: "But here in lies India’s strength: should India choose to, it can go about developing a low-carbon pathway for development of its rural citizens." The message of green development is key. For the first time in the US, the vision of green pathways out of poverty is breaking out, thanks to the long and dedicated work of the entire environmental justice community, although Van Jones, the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights and the new Green For All deserve a special shout out. This message needs to be extended, shared, and amplified all across the world. We can create green jobs not just here in the US, but in every country. A truly equitable green economy won't just create economic opportunity for those in the United States, but for those in need around the world. We all feel this vision - it's time to articulate it, to clarify it, and most importantly, to share it. That's where youth come in. It's our role to put forward a positive vision for the world. A unifying goal of green pathways out of poverty. Thanks for this great post and to keep sparking the discussion. Here's to a vision that can bring us all together. Fantastic post - and thanks for bringing an increasingly international voice to this blog, here’s to connecting the global youth climate movement. I think you have some excellent points. I especially enjoyed this quote:

“But here in lies India’s strength: should India choose to, it can go about developing a low-carbon pathway for development of its rural citizens.”

The message of green development is key. For the first time in the US, the vision of green pathways out of poverty is breaking out, thanks to the long and dedicated work of the entire environmental justice community, although Van Jones, the Ella Baker Center for Human Rights and the new Green For All deserve a special shout out. This message needs to be extended, shared, and amplified all across the world. We can create green jobs not just here in the US, but in every country. A truly equitable green economy won’t just create economic opportunity for those in the United States, but for those in need around the world.

We all feel this vision - it’s time to articulate it, to clarify it, and most importantly, to share it. That’s where youth come in. It’s our role to put forward a positive vision for the world. A unifying goal of green pathways out of poverty.

Thanks for this great post and to keep sparking the discussion. Here’s to a vision that can bring us all together.

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]]> By: R Margolis http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/04/incredible-ndia-not-inclined-to-tackle-climate-change/#comment-59876 R Margolis Sat, 05 Jan 2008 08:08:52 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/04/incredible-ndia-not-inclined-to-tackle-climate-change/#comment-59876 Using 2005 EIA data, India has 138 GW of capacity. To equal 25% of the US per capita would require India to install an additional capacity of about 780 GW (~35 Three Gorges Dams). And 25% of US per capita is still have the per capita of Switzerland. It will be quite a challenge for India to generate the electricity they need and avoid the carbon. Maybe OTEC and thorium will be in the mix? Using 2005 EIA data, India has 138 GW of capacity. To equal 25% of the US per capita would require India to install an additional capacity of about 780 GW (~35 Three Gorges Dams). And 25% of US per capita is still have the per capita of Switzerland. It will be quite a challenge for India to generate the electricity they need and avoid the carbon. Maybe OTEC and thorium will be in the mix?

]]> By: Amy Ortiz http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/04/incredible-ndia-not-inclined-to-tackle-climate-change/#comment-59838 Amy Ortiz Fri, 04 Jan 2008 18:38:25 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2008/01/04/incredible-ndia-not-inclined-to-tackle-climate-change/#comment-59838 This is a really interesting post. While I think it is completely unreasonable to expect countries like India to not develop when industrialized nations are consuming so much more, we also must face the fact that if everyone in the world follows the example of the west we will face global ecological collapse for sure. It is not possible to sustain 6 billion at Western consumption standards. Here is an interesting article by Jared Diamond about this issue. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/02/opinion/02diamond.html?ex=1357016400&en=8d884753e0aaba6f&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink While we are all watching the industrialized nations and big polluters to see what will happen, we also need to see if India and China choose to go down the same unsustainable development path the West followed. I also think the issue of outsourcing pollution is of interest, as many many polluting Chinese factories are making needless consumer goods to satisfy unsustainable U.S. market demands. This is a really interesting post. While I think it is completely unreasonable to expect countries like India to not develop when industrialized nations are consuming so much more, we also must face the fact that if everyone in the world follows the example of the west we will face global ecological collapse for sure. It is not possible to sustain 6 billion at Western consumption standards. Here is an interesting article by Jared Diamond about this issue.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/02/opinion/02diamond.html?ex=1357016400&en=8d884753e0aaba6f&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

While we are all watching the industrialized nations and big polluters to see what will happen, we also need to see if India and China choose to go down the same unsustainable development path the West followed.

I also think the issue of outsourcing pollution is of interest, as many many polluting Chinese factories are making needless consumer goods to satisfy unsustainable U.S. market demands.

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