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	<title>Comments on: Global Warming To Eliminate Tourism in the Caribbean</title>
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		<title>By: Global Warming To Eliminate Tourism in the Caribbean &#171; Carlos Rymer&#39;s Personal Blog</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/30/global-warming-to-eliminate-tourism-in-the-caribbean/#comment-81548</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Global Warming To Eliminate Tourism in the Caribbean &#171; Carlos Rymer&#39;s Personal Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Global Warming To Eliminate Tourism in the&#160;Caribbean By Carlos Rymer  Originally published in It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Global Warming To Eliminate Tourism in the&nbsp;Caribbean By Carlos Rymer  Originally published in It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Olela</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Olela]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the industry is really under threat especially the longhaul destinations along the coastal lines of Africa. Mind you these are countries whose developmental needs and the state of technology will not facilitate reduction of emmission of the greenhouse gasses.I encourage initiatives by travel companies in the developed countries to levy some charges on the tourists to fund projects like afforestration to increase the CO2 sink.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the industry is really under threat especially the longhaul destinations along the coastal lines of Africa. Mind you these are countries whose developmental needs and the state of technology will not facilitate reduction of emmission of the greenhouse gasses.I encourage initiatives by travel companies in the developed countries to levy some charges on the tourists to fund projects like afforestration to increase the CO2 sink.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 19:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i think that global warming would mainly affect the islands with plainer surface. But the Dominican Republic and Haity are very mountanous countries. Some places might flood like punta cana, but Dominican Republic Has mountains that reach 10,000 feet in height.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think that global warming would mainly affect the islands with plainer surface. But the Dominican Republic and Haity are very mountanous countries. Some places might flood like punta cana, but Dominican Republic Has mountains that reach 10,000 feet in height.</p>
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		<title>By: R Margolis</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/30/global-warming-to-eliminate-tourism-in-the-caribbean/#comment-59673</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R Margolis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 20:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How did I get labeled as an advocate for geo-engineering?  ;-)  I said it was intriguing, but so many factors (both technical and political) are out there that would have to be dealt with make it impractical.  I would advocate for fusion power before promoting geo-engineering.  :-)

My biggest skepticism is that solar, wind, and efficiency can do the job alone.  When I go through the numbers, Asia and Africa swamp the US even if they are efficient (i.e., 25% of US per capita which is half the per capita of Switzerland).  My guess is that some kind of baseload source will be needed (sequestered coal or LNG, fission, fusion, something that makes power 24/7 with little or no net carbon).  

In the meantime, best wishes for 2008 to the climate movement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did I get labeled as an advocate for geo-engineering?  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   I said it was intriguing, but so many factors (both technical and political) are out there that would have to be dealt with make it impractical.  I would advocate for fusion power before promoting geo-engineering.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My biggest skepticism is that solar, wind, and efficiency can do the job alone.  When I go through the numbers, Asia and Africa swamp the US even if they are efficient (i.e., 25% of US per capita which is half the per capita of Switzerland).  My guess is that some kind of baseload source will be needed (sequestered coal or LNG, fission, fusion, something that makes power 24/7 with little or no net carbon).  </p>
<p>In the meantime, best wishes for 2008 to the climate movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Graves</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Graves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and Evan. We don&#039;t need a majority to act, we just need to be right, smarter, and get enough people together to make the impact we need. The civil rights movement didn&#039;t have a majority when they started, which we are starting with. Rather we need to pressure the institutions that shape our society and our economy to make the change we want. 

You take down the grid, you kill people. You don&#039;t care? You would if you had to watch them die.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Evan. We don&#8217;t need a majority to act, we just need to be right, smarter, and get enough people together to make the impact we need. The civil rights movement didn&#8217;t have a majority when they started, which we are starting with. Rather we need to pressure the institutions that shape our society and our economy to make the change we want. </p>
<p>You take down the grid, you kill people. You don&#8217;t care? You would if you had to watch them die.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Graves</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Graves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This comment thread seems to have gone a little kooky, probably because of who started it. I am sorry, Kent, but the only one we should laugh at is you. Calling the media dim-witted when you refuse to believe every scientific body of note on earth on warming and then call for a space shield to stop the global warming you don&#039;t believe in. I understand it is New Years, but please don&#039;t drink and comment here. Next, Brad - it is quite obvious by now that Lovelock is a little unhinged - and one of the big issues with global warming is that we are conducting an uncontrolled experiment on our only home. Heard of the precautionary principle? Want to trust the governments of the world to geo-engineer the world for the better or release a genetically engineered organisms into the largest eco-system in the planet and without unforeseen and possible catastrophic consequences? I would tell you to go back to reading science-fiction where your ideas seem to come from, but in fact, science fiction spends a lot of time exploring the folly of humanity&#039;s efforts to &#039;re-engineer&#039; our home. 

Besides the solutions we are advocating that R Margolis has a right to be skeptical of, would reduce the health and ecological burdens of fossil fuels, increase employment, launch a new green economy, and maybe make the world a little more fair. If that combination of factors isn&#039;t enough for us to launch a new, green economy why should we embrace some hideously expensive experiment that more than likely kill us all off?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment thread seems to have gone a little kooky, probably because of who started it. I am sorry, Kent, but the only one we should laugh at is you. Calling the media dim-witted when you refuse to believe every scientific body of note on earth on warming and then call for a space shield to stop the global warming you don&#8217;t believe in. I understand it is New Years, but please don&#8217;t drink and comment here. Next, Brad &#8211; it is quite obvious by now that Lovelock is a little unhinged &#8211; and one of the big issues with global warming is that we are conducting an uncontrolled experiment on our only home. Heard of the precautionary principle? Want to trust the governments of the world to geo-engineer the world for the better or release a genetically engineered organisms into the largest eco-system in the planet and without unforeseen and possible catastrophic consequences? I would tell you to go back to reading science-fiction where your ideas seem to come from, but in fact, science fiction spends a lot of time exploring the folly of humanity&#8217;s efforts to &#8216;re-engineer&#8217; our home. </p>
<p>Besides the solutions we are advocating that R Margolis has a right to be skeptical of, would reduce the health and ecological burdens of fossil fuels, increase employment, launch a new green economy, and maybe make the world a little more fair. If that combination of factors isn&#8217;t enough for us to launch a new, green economy why should we embrace some hideously expensive experiment that more than likely kill us all off?</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Webb</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/30/global-warming-to-eliminate-tourism-in-the-caribbean/#comment-59619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Webb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i think the public&#039;s hesitation about immediate action is that they don&#039;t know what &quot;action&quot; means and, more importantly, don&#039;t care. so long as there&#039;s television and cheetos and beer, who cares? i don&#039;t ever think there will be a majority of folks taking significant action (read: more than a lightbulb) on the climate issue, and i think we give up that fantasy...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think the public&#8217;s hesitation about immediate action is that they don&#8217;t know what &#8220;action&#8221; means and, more importantly, don&#8217;t care. so long as there&#8217;s television and cheetos and beer, who cares? i don&#8217;t ever think there will be a majority of folks taking significant action (read: more than a lightbulb) on the climate issue, and i think we give up that fantasy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: R Margolis</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/30/global-warming-to-eliminate-tourism-in-the-caribbean/#comment-59616</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R Margolis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I ain&#039;t in this for your revolution...&quot;  Han Solo, Star Wars  ;-)

I often wonder if much of the public&#039;s hesitation for more immediate action on the carbon issue is that they keep hearing about social revolution as a siginificant goal of the climate movement.  Any combination of solutions will have big social and economic impacts already and require amelioration.  I would think that disempowered and impoverished people will need more electricity not less to give them health and economic opportunity.  

As for &quot;evil corporations&quot;, they seem more followers than leaders.  If the price of renewables becomes lower than fossil fuels when carbon finally gets regulated, then Exxon will build windmills and solar panels (maybe some sequestration and nuclear for baseload).  My experience is that they have less of a grand agenda than most folks think.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I ain&#8217;t in this for your revolution&#8230;&#8221;  Han Solo, Star Wars  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I often wonder if much of the public&#8217;s hesitation for more immediate action on the carbon issue is that they keep hearing about social revolution as a siginificant goal of the climate movement.  Any combination of solutions will have big social and economic impacts already and require amelioration.  I would think that disempowered and impoverished people will need more electricity not less to give them health and economic opportunity.  </p>
<p>As for &#8220;evil corporations&#8221;, they seem more followers than leaders.  If the price of renewables becomes lower than fossil fuels when carbon finally gets regulated, then Exxon will build windmills and solar panels (maybe some sequestration and nuclear for baseload).  My experience is that they have less of a grand agenda than most folks think.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Rymer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carlos Rymer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that anything that could get the job done should be looked at, but we also have to think about what we&#039;re doing other than global warming in relation to fossil fuels. It&#039;s not an issue of &quot;get global warming solved the quickest way possible.&quot; We&#039;ve got disempowered people here as a problem; we&#039;ve got congestion as a problem; we&#039;ve got subsidies that could go to better uses as a problem; we&#039;ve got corporate money making our decisions as a problem; we&#039;ve got smog, mercury, and lung cancer as a problem; we&#039;ve got conflicts over oil as a problem; we&#039;ve got high fossil fuel costs as a problem; we&#039;ve got an unsustainable model based on fossil fuels as a problem. That&#039;s why we don&#039;t just want to stop global warming the imaginatively quickest way possible. We need a revolution that will solve all this and bring an end to poverty, to corporate control of governments, to unsustainable practices, and to all the ills of society. That&#039;s the revolution that a renewable energy, energy efficient, and people powered society will bring. Please understand this and decide that mirrors or sulfur or ocean algae growth ain&#039;t the way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that anything that could get the job done should be looked at, but we also have to think about what we&#8217;re doing other than global warming in relation to fossil fuels. It&#8217;s not an issue of &#8220;get global warming solved the quickest way possible.&#8221; We&#8217;ve got disempowered people here as a problem; we&#8217;ve got congestion as a problem; we&#8217;ve got subsidies that could go to better uses as a problem; we&#8217;ve got corporate money making our decisions as a problem; we&#8217;ve got smog, mercury, and lung cancer as a problem; we&#8217;ve got conflicts over oil as a problem; we&#8217;ve got high fossil fuel costs as a problem; we&#8217;ve got an unsustainable model based on fossil fuels as a problem. That&#8217;s why we don&#8217;t just want to stop global warming the imaginatively quickest way possible. We need a revolution that will solve all this and bring an end to poverty, to corporate control of governments, to unsustainable practices, and to all the ills of society. That&#8217;s the revolution that a renewable energy, energy efficient, and people powered society will bring. Please understand this and decide that mirrors or sulfur or ocean algae growth ain&#8217;t the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Sol Shapiro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sol Shapiro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I join kent beuchert and R Margolis in calling for study and deployment as needed of a process called &quot;climate change geoengineering&quot; which can with high probability stop global warming in short order.  There are a number of approaches to reducing absorbed solar flux including space shieldes, particulates in the upper atmosphere and increased the reflectivity of the Earth;  as well as approaches to take the excess CO2 out of the atmosphere such as carbon sequestration in soil.  What is needed is open discussion of the need for such study so that the world&#039;s governments will put sufficient funding into the activity and to include international oversight of possible deployment under the Kyoto replacement treaty.
Somarl@msn.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I join kent beuchert and R Margolis in calling for study and deployment as needed of a process called &#8220;climate change geoengineering&#8221; which can with high probability stop global warming in short order.  There are a number of approaches to reducing absorbed solar flux including space shieldes, particulates in the upper atmosphere and increased the reflectivity of the Earth;  as well as approaches to take the excess CO2 out of the atmosphere such as carbon sequestration in soil.  What is needed is open discussion of the need for such study so that the world&#8217;s governments will put sufficient funding into the activity and to include international oversight of possible deployment under the Kyoto replacement treaty.<br />
<a href="mailto:Somarl@msn.com">Somarl@msn.com</a></p>
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