Comments on: BaliBuzz: A Call for Urgency: No More Time for Inefficiency http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/11/a-call-for-urgency-there-is-no-more-time-for-inefficiency/ Dispatches from the Youth Climate Movement Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:09:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Evan http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/11/a-call-for-urgency-there-is-no-more-time-for-inefficiency/#comment-58108 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:34:43 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/11/a-call-for-urgency-there-is-no-more-time-for-inefficiency/#comment-58108 I appreciate the work done “with the system.” I especially all of y’all who have gone all the way to Bali for this. Thank you very much. It is necessary work.

I, too, am still working within the confines of the governmental, economic, and cultural systems of our times, so this question is just a broad question to all, not necessarily directed at you Kelley.

I wonder of the efficacy of respecting the system and always trying to work within it. I would include in that category nonviolent civil disobedience — that’s still working in ths system in a number of ways. I think of Audre Lorde’s comment: “The Master’s Tools will never dismantle the master’s house.”

be well,
Evan

]]> By: Josh Arnold http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/11/a-call-for-urgency-there-is-no-more-time-for-inefficiency/#comment-58103 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:56:43 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/11/a-call-for-urgency-there-is-no-more-time-for-inefficiency/#comment-58103 I remember the frustration. There seems to be a catch-22 at these conferences. On the one hand, it is crucial to align flawlessly with the UN process as a way to take full advantage of 2-weeks, but on the other hand the parameters of the conversation (that were defined well before the Bali conference) do not include room for meaningful dialog about some of the most pressing issues of climate change including climate justice, the shortfalls of a market-based solution, and the moral obligation to take action commensurate to scientific consensus. I do not have the answers but thought it might bring some comfort to let you know that I feel your frustration and from all the way on the other side of the globe, am sending lots of energy your way to help you sustain a balanced atmosphere in the UN halls between efficient progress with the tools at and a meaningful dialog about the larger issues beyond parts per million.

Selemat berkerjar. (I think that means good work in bahasa)

Josh

and make sure you don’t get so drowned in the process that your forget to try the nasi campur!

]]> By: Loren http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/11/a-call-for-urgency-there-is-no-more-time-for-inefficiency/#comment-58098 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:56:44 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/11/a-call-for-urgency-there-is-no-more-time-for-inefficiency/#comment-58098 In the discussions amongst youth delegates, what are thoughts on whether standard positions of developing countries on climate change may possibly leave them worse off?

http://endpovertyinsouthasia.worldbank.org/some-doubts-about-developing-countries-positions-climate-change

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