Comments on: US CAP commits to 90% reduction by 2050 & coal moratorium! http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/ Dispatches from the Youth Climate Movement Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:24:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: “Of interest” « chrislang.org http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-60949 “Of interest” « chrislang.org Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:53:52 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-60949 [...] BP, Shell and other oil corporations to reduce emissions by 90% by 2050! It’s a hoax, unfortunately, but it’s a perfect way of illustrating the sheer [...] [...] BP, Shell and other oil corporations to reduce emissions by 90% by 2050! It’s a hoax, unfortunately, but it’s a perfect way of illustrating the sheer [...]

]]> By: Escobar http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-57827 Escobar Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:30:54 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-57827 Gee, Judith, don't you just have the media pegged? Look, it's easy to make statements about the "corporate" media when you don't see how it works from the inside, so ignorant statements such as yours are forgivable. The truth is that in general, we go with the best information we have at the time we have it and we -- unlike the rest of the world, unlike you -- don't have the luxury of letting our political opinions about WMDs or climate change or anything else skew our reporting and the information in front of us. And might I remind you of my previous point about when people lie to us? As in how the administration lied to us about WMDs? Of course the media got it wrong, we often do when people lie to us. A lie is a lie is a lie. But one thing you, these "activists" and the Bush administration have in common is that you all seem to think it's okay to lie to the press if it helps you meet your goals. And by the way, how exactly does lying to the press help the cause when it comes to climate change? Because as a reporter, I gotta say it almost makes me a little more wary of dealing with folks on the activists' side of the issue. As in, if you're willing to lie to once, how do I know you won't do it again. In fact, how do I know you're not doing it all the time? Gee, Judith, don’t you just have the media pegged?
Look, it’s easy to make statements about the “corporate” media when you don’t see how it works from the inside, so ignorant statements such as yours are forgivable. The truth is that in general, we go with the best information we have at the time we have it and we — unlike the rest of the world, unlike you — don’t have the luxury of letting our political opinions about WMDs or climate change or anything else skew our reporting and the information in front of us.
And might I remind you of my previous point about when people lie to us? As in how the administration lied to us about WMDs? Of course the media got it wrong, we often do when people lie to us.
A lie is a lie is a lie. But one thing you, these “activists” and the Bush administration have in common is that you all seem to think it’s okay to lie to the press if it helps you meet your goals.
And by the way, how exactly does lying to the press help the cause when it comes to climate change? Because as a reporter, I gotta say it almost makes me a little more wary of dealing with folks on the activists’ side of the issue. As in, if you’re willing to lie to once, how do I know you won’t do it again. In fact, how do I know you’re not doing it all the time?

]]> By: hughbartling.com http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-57696 hughbartling.com Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:17:10 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-57696 <strong>Bali Climate Change Conference: Day Two</strong> Things are just getting rolling in Bali.  This week will primarily be comprised of lower-level meetings which will culminate in a set of recommendations for the “roadmap” that will be negotiated next week when higher ranking ministers deve... Bali Climate Change Conference: Day Two

Things are just getting rolling in Bali.  This week will primarily be comprised of lower-level meetings which will culminate in a set of recommendations for the “roadmap” that will be negotiated next week when higher ranking ministers deve…

]]> By: Chris B http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-57687 Chris B Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:14:11 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-57687 Way to do a good job of reporting! Last time, I'm going to this blog for news.... Couldn't you have done a little bit of research? Way to do a good job of reporting! Last time, I’m going to this blog for news…. Couldn’t you have done a little bit of research?

]]> By: Judith Miller http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-57646 Judith Miller Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:59:33 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-57646 Yeah, kinda like they figured out the whole hoax behind the WMDs in Iraq or the Iraq/Al Qaaeda connection? The corporate media currently exists a cheerleader for the Bush Administration and their patrons in the fossil fuel industry. If they media had done their job then, maybe we'd be spending more time on reversing global warming instead of trying to stop an endless war in the Middle East. Right now we are at a critical point in history as far as war and the environment goes and the media should be picking apart institutions like USCAP instead of being outraged by Rising Tide actually having to do their job for them by highlighting USCAP's greenwashing. I hope when USCAP called you, you responded "WHY AREN'T YOU COMMITTING TO REDUCE 90% by 2050?!!" Probably not, they most likely buy advertising time. Yeah, kinda like they figured out the whole hoax behind the WMDs in Iraq or the Iraq/Al Qaaeda connection? The corporate media currently exists a cheerleader for the Bush Administration and their patrons in the fossil fuel industry. If they media had done their job then, maybe we’d be spending more time on reversing global warming instead of trying to stop an endless war in the Middle East.

Right now we are at a critical point in history as far as war and the environment goes and the media should be picking apart institutions like USCAP instead of being outraged by Rising Tide actually having to do their job for them by highlighting USCAP’s greenwashing.

I hope when USCAP called you, you responded “WHY AREN’T YOU COMMITTING TO REDUCE 90% by 2050?!!”

Probably not, they most likely buy advertising time.

]]> By: International Hoax Targets US Business Consortium Amidst Bali Climate Negotiations! « It’s Getting Hot In Here http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-57624 International Hoax Targets US Business Consortium Amidst Bali Climate Negotiations! « It’s Getting Hot In Here Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:16:36 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-57624 [...] Posts US CAP commits to 90% reduction by 2050 & coal moratorium!Bali 2007AboutSustainUS and International Youth Ready to Rock the COPFrom the Nightmare to the Dream [...] [...] Posts US CAP commits to 90% reduction by 2050 & coal moratorium!Bali 2007AboutSustainUS and International Youth Ready to Rock the COPFrom the Nightmare to the Dream [...]

]]> By: The Understory » Hoax Website Spoofs US Greenwashing Gang http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-57622 The Understory » Hoax Website Spoofs US Greenwashing Gang Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:13:51 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-57622 [...] After dozens of interviews and putting the spoof site into the media and blogosphere, Rising Tide was able to generate articles in the Dallas Morning News (original since removed), UK investor wire Hemscott (also removed) and several blogs. [...] [...] After dozens of interviews and putting the spoof site into the media and blogosphere, Rising Tide was able to generate articles in the Dallas Morning News (original since removed), UK investor wire Hemscott (also removed) and several blogs. [...]

]]> By: lizveazey http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-57620 lizveazey Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:34:36 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-57620 here's more news on the hoax from NYTimes: <a href="http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/03/more-climate-fakery/" rel="nofollow">http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/03/more-climate-fakery/</a> here’s more news on the hoax from NYTimes: http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/03/more-climate-fakery/

]]> By: Scobar http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-57618 Scobar Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:45:39 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-57618 As everyone should know by now, this press release is a fake. I got a call from U.S. CAP this morning asking the press to find out why someone is writing false press releases misrepresenting their policy position. The Dallas Morning News apparently ran with the story before the hoax was figured out. You know, folks in the press work really hard to get the news out and get it right. When people lie to us, we get stuck with the blame for these mistakes. This is really unfortunate. As everyone should know by now, this press release is a fake. I got a call from U.S. CAP this morning asking the press to find out why someone is writing false press releases misrepresenting their policy position. The Dallas Morning News apparently ran with the story before the hoax was figured out.
You know, folks in the press work really hard to get the news out and get it right. When people lie to us, we get stuck with the blame for these mistakes. This is really unfortunate.

]]> By: lizveazey http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-57617 lizveazey Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:45:21 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/us-cap-commits-to-90-reduction-by-2050-coal-moratorium/#comment-57617 yep, it's a hoax, check out Guardian article for more: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2007/dec/03/oil.bp" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2007/dec/03/oil.bp</a> yep, it’s a hoax, check out Guardian article for more:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2007/dec/03/oil.bp

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