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		<title>By: AIG Withdraws From US Climate Action Partnership &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/international-hoax-targets-us-business-consortium-amidst-bali-climate-negotiations/#comment-70807</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AIG Withdraws From US Climate Action Partnership &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] may remember in Dec. 2007, Rising Tide spoofed USCAP with a hoax website saying that the lobbying group was calling for an 80% reduction by 2050 and a moratorium on new [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] may remember in Dec. 2007, Rising Tide spoofed USCAP with a hoax website saying that the lobbying group was calling for an 80% reduction by 2050 and a moratorium on new [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Understory &#187; AIG Withdraws from US Climate Action Partnership</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Understory &#187; AIG Withdraws from US Climate Action Partnership]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] turn of events with the US Climate Action Partnership. You may remember that in Dec. 2007 Rising Tide spoofed USCAP with a hoax website that got major international media. AIG Withdraws From US Climate Action Partnership Dow Joes [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] turn of events with the US Climate Action Partnership. You may remember that in Dec. 2007 Rising Tide spoofed USCAP with a hoax website that got major international media. AIG Withdraws From US Climate Action Partnership Dow Joes [...]</p>
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		<title>By: International Hoax Targets US Business Consortium Amidst Bali Climate Negotiations &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[International Hoax Targets US Business Consortium Amidst Bali Climate Negotiations &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] It’s Getting Hot in Here [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Rising Tide Needs Your Help! &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/international-hoax-targets-us-business-consortium-amidst-bali-climate-negotiations/#comment-58297</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rising Tide Needs Your Help! &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] frequently. From organizing this summer&#8217;s Convergences for Climate Action, to calling out the greenwashing of the US Climate Action Partnership - they are shifting the entire climate debate for all of us.  As an all-volunteer group that [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] frequently. From organizing this summer&#8217;s Convergences for Climate Action, to calling out the greenwashing of the US Climate Action Partnership &#8211; they are shifting the entire climate debate for all of us.  As an all-volunteer group that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Knauer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Knauer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They should immediately contact IGC.org, a non-profit that focuses on hosting progressive (and frequently controversial) websites.  If this is truly a parody site, then it should be on the web and not hosted at an ISP that will bend without a court order.  There is a fair use provision under the DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) that any competent ISP should be able to defend such a site with.  IGC has done this in the past for a lot of other sites (McSpotlight, etc.) and would be a much better place.  I hope this doesn&#039;t come across as spam... but please do pass it on to whomever is doing the USCAP action.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should immediately contact IGC.org, a non-profit that focuses on hosting progressive (and frequently controversial) websites.  If this is truly a parody site, then it should be on the web and not hosted at an ISP that will bend without a court order.  There is a fair use provision under the DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) that any competent ISP should be able to defend such a site with.  IGC has done this in the past for a lot of other sites (McSpotlight, etc.) and would be a much better place.  I hope this doesn&#8217;t come across as spam&#8230; but please do pass it on to whomever is doing the USCAP action.</p>
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		<title>By: US CAP commits to 90% reduction by 2050 &#38; coal moratorium! &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[US CAP commits to 90% reduction by 2050 &#38; coal moratorium! &#171; It&#8217;s Getting Hot In Here]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] US CAP commits to 90% reduction by 2050 &amp; coal&#160;moratorium!  Published by lizveazey, December 3rd, 2007  Business , Climate Policy , Corporate Responsibility , Economics      [Editor&#8217;s note: this US CAP announcement was in fact a hoax, the result of a campaign by international climate justice group, RisingTide.  See this story for more] [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] US CAP commits to 90% reduction by 2050 &amp; coal&nbsp;moratorium!  Published by lizveazey, December 3rd, 2007  Business , Climate Policy , Corporate Responsibility , Economics      [Editor&#8217;s note: this US CAP announcement was in fact a hoax, the result of a campaign by international climate justice group, RisingTide.  See this story for more] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Ortiz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amy Ortiz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 05:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is such a sweet action.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is such a sweet action.</p>
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		<title>By: Rising Tide North America &#187; Blog Archive &#187; International Hoax Targets US Business Consortium Amidst Bali Climate Negotiations</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] It&#8217;s Getting Hot in Here [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Matt Leonard</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/12/03/international-hoax-targets-us-business-consortium-amidst-bali-climate-negotiations/#comment-57645</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Leonard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, there are fairly strong first amendment protections around political satire. The Yes-Men have used similar tactics with much success over the years. And I really don&#039;t think USCAP companies want to make this situation any bigger news than it already is.

You raise a good question Jesse - who are the most effective targets of actions like this? What are the goals?

I actually feel that groups like USCAP are very strategic targets of such stunts. You could view them as the &quot;best of a bad bunch&quot; - or you could view them as being very smart (in their own way) by creating the USCAP to ensure they dominate public discourse and have strong lobbying positions for any future climate/carbon legislation. Perhaps I&#039;m being a cynic here (though I think I am one of the most optimistic people you&#039;ll meet), but groups like USCAP are very much responsible for at least inhibiting, or perhaps even derailing the power and momentum of grassroots groups calling for more radical and visionary change. 

It&#039;s telling that USCAP represents some of the biggest polluters and the companies that have the most to potentially gain economically from carbon cap-and-trade systems. And despite their rhetoric - they still have business practices that ensure massive continued pollution. From producing gas-guzzling cars to building more coal-fired power plants, to creating toxic waste disasters and simply maintaining our dependence on fossil fuels - are the members of USCAP really leading the pack? Or are they waging smart PR and lobbying campaigns to ensure that the climate movement doesn&#039;t threaten their bottom line and fundamental business models? 

But thanks - fun action that got very positive response from allies, media, and friends in Bali. There are still a number of articles that we are hoping to see surface in the next few days as well, including some more in-depth pieces around carbon trading, fossil fuels, offsets, and global equity issues around climate initiatives.

If anything, we helped educate some people these issues, and encouraged folks to look more critically at the role corporations are playing in determining climate policy. 

-Matt]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there are fairly strong first amendment protections around political satire. The Yes-Men have used similar tactics with much success over the years. And I really don&#8217;t think USCAP companies want to make this situation any bigger news than it already is.</p>
<p>You raise a good question Jesse &#8211; who are the most effective targets of actions like this? What are the goals?</p>
<p>I actually feel that groups like USCAP are very strategic targets of such stunts. You could view them as the &#8220;best of a bad bunch&#8221; &#8211; or you could view them as being very smart (in their own way) by creating the USCAP to ensure they dominate public discourse and have strong lobbying positions for any future climate/carbon legislation. Perhaps I&#8217;m being a cynic here (though I think I am one of the most optimistic people you&#8217;ll meet), but groups like USCAP are very much responsible for at least inhibiting, or perhaps even derailing the power and momentum of grassroots groups calling for more radical and visionary change. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s telling that USCAP represents some of the biggest polluters and the companies that have the most to potentially gain economically from carbon cap-and-trade systems. And despite their rhetoric &#8211; they still have business practices that ensure massive continued pollution. From producing gas-guzzling cars to building more coal-fired power plants, to creating toxic waste disasters and simply maintaining our dependence on fossil fuels &#8211; are the members of USCAP really leading the pack? Or are they waging smart PR and lobbying campaigns to ensure that the climate movement doesn&#8217;t threaten their bottom line and fundamental business models? </p>
<p>But thanks &#8211; fun action that got very positive response from allies, media, and friends in Bali. There are still a number of articles that we are hoping to see surface in the next few days as well, including some more in-depth pieces around carbon trading, fossil fuels, offsets, and global equity issues around climate initiatives.</p>
<p>If anything, we helped educate some people these issues, and encouraged folks to look more critically at the role corporations are playing in determining climate policy. </p>
<p>-Matt</p>
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		<title>By: jessejenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jessejenkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, how do you avoid getting arrested and charged with libel when you do that?  

You know, it&#039;s really not USCAP partners that need to be the targets of an action like this - it&#039;s the many many more companies who haven&#039;t even come as far as US CAP (which to be fair does call for a 60-80% cut by 2050).  Not that I&#039;m a big fan of US CAP partner companies... it&#039;s just that they are some of the best of a bad bunch, and targeting those who are trying to lead their pack - even if they&#039;ve yet to come far enough - might be a misplaced priority.  

Then again, I don&#039;t know what the real objectives/targets of this action were... So I&#039;m going to shut up now...

Nicely executed in any case!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, how do you avoid getting arrested and charged with libel when you do that?  </p>
<p>You know, it&#8217;s really not USCAP partners that need to be the targets of an action like this &#8211; it&#8217;s the many many more companies who haven&#8217;t even come as far as US CAP (which to be fair does call for a 60-80% cut by 2050).  Not that I&#8217;m a big fan of US CAP partner companies&#8230; it&#8217;s just that they are some of the best of a bad bunch, and targeting those who are trying to lead their pack &#8211; even if they&#8217;ve yet to come far enough &#8211; might be a misplaced priority.  </p>
<p>Then again, I don&#8217;t know what the real objectives/targets of this action were&#8230; So I&#8217;m going to shut up now&#8230;</p>
<p>Nicely executed in any case!</p>
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