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	<description>Dispatches from the Youth Climate Movement</description>
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		<title>By: Memetics 101 &#171; Chris Martin&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/08/16/did-al-gore-just-tell-you-off/#comment-64563</link>
		<dc:creator>Memetics 101 &#171; Chris Martin&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] against Bank of America&#8217;s investment in the coal companies that are destroying our future [1]. The action was conjured and launched by Rising Tide North America [2] as part of the 2007 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/08/16/did-al-gore-just-tell-you-off/#comment-52200</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al Gore is a hypocrite. I wish he'd get off of his high horse telling people what to do and do something himself. Think about how many limos and airplanes he's taken in his quest for global warming. I would be happy to be civilly disobedient as long as he's the first one to get arrested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Gore is a hypocrite. I wish he&#8217;d get off of his high horse telling people what to do and do something himself. Think about how many limos and airplanes he&#8217;s taken in his quest for global warming. I would be happy to be civilly disobedient as long as he&#8217;s the first one to get arrested.</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/08/16/did-al-gore-just-tell-you-off/#comment-51322</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we met with him in nyc and brought to his attention the jeff luers case
think it made an impact
freefreenow.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we met with him in nyc and brought to his attention the jeff luers case<br />
think it made an impact<br />
freefreenow.org</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen L. Rush</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/08/16/did-al-gore-just-tell-you-off/#comment-51074</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen L. Rush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 06:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Amy, Matt, David, but especially Luis.  The reality is the economics of it, so as a business strategist, I looked into what it would take to go carbon-negative (not merely carbon-neutral), as the Virgin-mobile/Generation Investment Management challenge says to.  

Let's think it through: there are three consumer-driven polluters: electricity, transportation, and solid waste.  Providing electricity to the grid is tricky without additional infrastructure, and could be more expensive to provide than to just work with the diesel generators we have now.  Auto manufacturers are not sure what direction to go until a viable fuel source is found, especially since corn prices cannot please both ethanol fuel providers and dairy consumers.  Organic trash requires mega-amounts of manpower to separate, and ethanol from cellulosic material requires some sort of environmentally unsound and expensive acid pre-process just to access the sugars inside - and it only can produce 15-20% of the demand.  

At least, that is the way things look.  What if I told you Wise Landfill Recycling Mining has been working on a proprietary process that breaks down organic cell tissue from municiple solid waste in a way that is both environmentally and economically sound?  It is true.  Not only that, we found a way to excentuate the cellulosic processes and produce 4.4 times as much ethanol, while extracting CO2 from the air and internal processes to provide bio-diesel.  In addition, the excess electricity we produce from solar and biodiesel generators will be sold back to the electric grid.  

That's the plan.  It may be a while before implementation, but we are out there and are doing everything in our power to bring carbon-negative oil independence to consumers here in the U.S. and eventually abroad.  We are not just saying someone should do something, we are doing it.  That is our stance.  

Ok, so I am not exactly a youth.  But I did want to respond to the agitation that seemed as if nothing was being done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Amy, Matt, David, but especially Luis.  The reality is the economics of it, so as a business strategist, I looked into what it would take to go carbon-negative (not merely carbon-neutral), as the Virgin-mobile/Generation Investment Management challenge says to.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s think it through: there are three consumer-driven polluters: electricity, transportation, and solid waste.  Providing electricity to the grid is tricky without additional infrastructure, and could be more expensive to provide than to just work with the diesel generators we have now.  Auto manufacturers are not sure what direction to go until a viable fuel source is found, especially since corn prices cannot please both ethanol fuel providers and dairy consumers.  Organic trash requires mega-amounts of manpower to separate, and ethanol from cellulosic material requires some sort of environmentally unsound and expensive acid pre-process just to access the sugars inside - and it only can produce 15-20% of the demand.  </p>
<p>At least, that is the way things look.  What if I told you Wise Landfill Recycling Mining has been working on a proprietary process that breaks down organic cell tissue from municiple solid waste in a way that is both environmentally and economically sound?  It is true.  Not only that, we found a way to excentuate the cellulosic processes and produce 4.4 times as much ethanol, while extracting CO2 from the air and internal processes to provide bio-diesel.  In addition, the excess electricity we produce from solar and biodiesel generators will be sold back to the electric grid.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the plan.  It may be a while before implementation, but we are out there and are doing everything in our power to bring carbon-negative oil independence to consumers here in the U.S. and eventually abroad.  We are not just saying someone should do something, we are doing it.  That is our stance.  </p>
<p>Ok, so I am not exactly a youth.  But I did want to respond to the agitation that seemed as if nothing was being done.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Hubbird</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/08/16/did-al-gore-just-tell-you-off/#comment-51056</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Hubbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the words of the Wobblies, DAGG, yo. Direct Action Gets the Goods. The acronym isn't DADMAPYMME (Direct Action Draws Media Attention and Promulgates Your Message More Efficiently), and to view direct action as a tactic in some larger media strategy seems a little disingenuous. It's not about messaging or framing or "drawing attention". It's about stopping coal plants now.

That's not to say that other actions aren't important, obviously I wouldn't be doing what I do if I thought that, just to say that defanged, micro-managed direct action always makes me feel a little queasy. I just don't know if I subscribe to the Ruckus Society school of activism, that views direct action as a tool to garner media exposure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the words of the Wobblies, DAGG, yo. Direct Action Gets the Goods. The acronym isn&#8217;t DADMAPYMME (Direct Action Draws Media Attention and Promulgates Your Message More Efficiently), and to view direct action as a tactic in some larger media strategy seems a little disingenuous. It&#8217;s not about messaging or framing or &#8220;drawing attention&#8221;. It&#8217;s about stopping coal plants now.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that other actions aren&#8217;t important, obviously I wouldn&#8217;t be doing what I do if I thought that, just to say that defanged, micro-managed direct action always makes me feel a little queasy. I just don&#8217;t know if I subscribe to the Ruckus Society school of activism, that views direct action as a tool to garner media exposure.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/08/16/did-al-gore-just-tell-you-off/#comment-51050</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!

If the economics don't work, recycling efforts won't either. 
As our little contribution to make this economics of recycling more appealing, http://LivePaths.com  blogs about people and companies that make money selling recycled or reused items, provide green services or help us reduce our dependency on non renewable resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!</p>
<p>If the economics don&#8217;t work, recycling efforts won&#8217;t either.<br />
As our little contribution to make this economics of recycling more appealing, <a href="http://LivePaths.com" rel="nofollow">http://LivePaths.com</a>  blogs about people and companies that make money selling recycled or reused items, provide green services or help us reduce our dependency on non renewable resources.</p>
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		<title>By: brianfrank</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/08/16/did-al-gore-just-tell-you-off/#comment-51049</link>
		<dc:creator>brianfrank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who worked a lot on the west coast convergence it is worth noting that doing direct action for the climate, while it may be inspiring and empowering, does not necessarily mean media attention.

Both of the actions post-west coast convergence were billed in the media in press release headlines as "direct actions", but because there was no big arrest scenario, or risk to travelers, the media interest was tepid at best - even for a blockade of a major power company HQ in downtown Portland!

The bottom line is if we want corporate media coverage of resistance we either need to make it hugely huge and different (vis a vis Step it Up) or we need to do (or say we are going to do....) actions that really disrupt things (like appear to be threatening to take down Heathrow).

The UK Climate Camp strategy of choosing to position the camp at Heathrow was flawless: it's worth noting that the activists there VERY LIKELY WILL NOT EVEN DO AN ACTION AT HEATHROW, and may never have intended too!

They made the media believe they were going to do something totally unbelievable, used that to draw attention to the issue, and while they've captured their attention, they have led them where they wanted them, pulling off more manageable and less massively disruptive actions all along the way, drawing attention to off-the-grid living and the growing movement to stop climate chaos.

In the end they'll have all the attention to the climate they'd hoped for, have made the media and police look like over-reactive fools, and gotten tens of thousands more people engaged in the issue. 

BRILLIANT STRATEGY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who worked a lot on the west coast convergence it is worth noting that doing direct action for the climate, while it may be inspiring and empowering, does not necessarily mean media attention.</p>
<p>Both of the actions post-west coast convergence were billed in the media in press release headlines as &#8220;direct actions&#8221;, but because there was no big arrest scenario, or risk to travelers, the media interest was tepid at best - even for a blockade of a major power company HQ in downtown Portland!</p>
<p>The bottom line is if we want corporate media coverage of resistance we either need to make it hugely huge and different (vis a vis Step it Up) or we need to do (or say we are going to do&#8230;.) actions that really disrupt things (like appear to be threatening to take down Heathrow).</p>
<p>The UK Climate Camp strategy of choosing to position the camp at Heathrow was flawless: it&#8217;s worth noting that the activists there VERY LIKELY WILL NOT EVEN DO AN ACTION AT HEATHROW, and may never have intended too!</p>
<p>They made the media believe they were going to do something totally unbelievable, used that to draw attention to the issue, and while they&#8217;ve captured their attention, they have led them where they wanted them, pulling off more manageable and less massively disruptive actions all along the way, drawing attention to off-the-grid living and the growing movement to stop climate chaos.</p>
<p>In the end they&#8217;ll have all the attention to the climate they&#8217;d hoped for, have made the media and police look like over-reactive fools, and gotten tens of thousands more people engaged in the issue. </p>
<p>BRILLIANT STRATEGY.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/08/16/did-al-gore-just-tell-you-off/#comment-51036</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are youth groups already taking action, but you're right.  We need to take Gore up on his challenge.  Take it to the next level.  

Check out Solar Generation as one way to get involved...

&lt;a href="http://www.solargeneration.org" rel="nofollow"&gt;www.solargeneration.org&lt;/a&gt;

They've protested at big bank meetings and political conferences, and have members around the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are youth groups already taking action, but you&#8217;re right.  We need to take Gore up on his challenge.  Take it to the next level.  </p>
<p>Check out Solar Generation as one way to get involved&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.solargeneration.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.solargeneration.org</a></p>
<p>They&#8217;ve protested at big bank meetings and political conferences, and have members around the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Coulston</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/08/16/did-al-gore-just-tell-you-off/#comment-51024</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur Coulston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 01:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the face of an increasingly oppressive federal government it is important to consider the role our 'peace' officers have to play in helping us raise awareness around this issue.  Take for example the action camp going on at Heathrow Airport, UK this week.  Activists there have garnered major national and international media attention for climate change and the debate around air travel and airport expansion.  

How did they get all this coverage?  Well most of the coverage has been spurred by the embarrassingly large police presence at the camp, nearly two heavily armed officers for every one camp attendee.  The camp has been very strategic in using the location next to Heathrow and vagueness around the camps goals to draw out a big police presence.  

Anyway, just a thought.  Sometimes all you have to do is talk about doing direct action to get thousands of media hits.  Read some of this news coverage to find out more...

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&#38;ned=&#38;q=heathrow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the face of an increasingly oppressive federal government it is important to consider the role our &#8216;peace&#8217; officers have to play in helping us raise awareness around this issue.  Take for example the action camp going on at Heathrow Airport, UK this week.  Activists there have garnered major national and international media attention for climate change and the debate around air travel and airport expansion.  </p>
<p>How did they get all this coverage?  Well most of the coverage has been spurred by the embarrassingly large police presence at the camp, nearly two heavily armed officers for every one camp attendee.  The camp has been very strategic in using the location next to Heathrow and vagueness around the camps goals to draw out a big police presence.  </p>
<p>Anyway, just a thought.  Sometimes all you have to do is talk about doing direct action to get thousands of media hits.  Read some of this news coverage to find out more&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&amp;ned=&amp;q=heathrow" rel="nofollow">http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&amp;ned=&amp;q=heathrow</a></p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Huggan</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/08/16/did-al-gore-just-tell-you-off/#comment-50930</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Huggan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.ecologyfund.com offers daily buttons to click to save rainforests.  Also saves 500ft^2 of rainforests upon quick and free site registration.  Up to an additional 2000ft^2 if up to 20 friends are e-mailed a request to join.

www.everyclick.com is a search engine that donates two cents to a charity of one's choice for each search.  "Rainforest Concern" is listed, they buy up rainforests.

All funded by ad revenues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ecologyfund.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ecologyfund.com</a> offers daily buttons to click to save rainforests.  Also saves 500ft^2 of rainforests upon quick and free site registration.  Up to an additional 2000ft^2 if up to 20 friends are e-mailed a request to join.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.everyclick.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.everyclick.com</a> is a search engine that donates two cents to a charity of one&#8217;s choice for each search.  &#8220;Rainforest Concern&#8221; is listed, they buy up rainforests.</p>
<p>All funded by ad revenues.</p>
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