http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/05/12/opec-we-are-here-to-correct-you-fossil-fuels-are-unsustainable/ Dispatches from the Youth Climate Movement Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:49:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/05/12/opec-we-are-here-to-correct-you-fossil-fuels-are-unsustainable/#comment-45839 R Margolis Mon, 14 May 2007 17:56:13 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/05/12/opec-we-are-here-to-correct-you-fossil-fuels-are-unsustainable/#comment-45839 Another facet of a good faith discussion is what technologies we are willing to accept in our own backyards. Reading of opposition even to offshore wind (e.g., Cape Wind and Long Island) makes me concerned if ANY technology can be quickly deployed in the US even if it is popular on paper. Whether you include or exclude nuclear, communities will face hard choices about what energy technologies they must implement in order to have the electricity needed with as little carbon as possible. Another facet of a good faith discussion is what technologies we are willing to accept in our own backyards. Reading of opposition even to offshore wind (e.g., Cape Wind and Long Island) makes me concerned if ANY technology can be quickly deployed in the US even if it is popular on paper. Whether you include or exclude nuclear, communities will face hard choices about what energy technologies they must implement in order to have the electricity needed with as little carbon as possible.

]]> http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/05/12/opec-we-are-here-to-correct-you-fossil-fuels-are-unsustainable/#comment-45840 Richard Graves Mon, 14 May 2007 16:13:37 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/05/12/opec-we-are-here-to-correct-you-fossil-fuels-are-unsustainable/#comment-45840 I am willing to have a debate about any kind of technology, even Nuclear and biofuels, as long it is part of a good faith attempt to reduce carbon emissions. But I really think the timescale and cost of nuclear really make it a poor contender in that arena, especially if we need to get this stuff up in the next 13 years. I think that serious investment in efficiency, peak shaving technology, and passive heating/cooling would be cheaper. However, decommissioning current nuclear might leave a massive base-load hole that would increase the push for coal, which we definitely don't want. I am willing to have a debate about any kind of technology, even Nuclear and biofuels, as long it is part of a good faith attempt to reduce carbon emissions. But I really think the timescale and cost of nuclear really make it a poor contender in that arena, especially if we need to get this stuff up in the next 13 years. I think that serious investment in efficiency, peak shaving technology, and passive heating/cooling would be cheaper. However, decommissioning current nuclear might leave a massive base-load hole that would increase the push for coal, which we definitely don’t want.

]]> http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/05/12/opec-we-are-here-to-correct-you-fossil-fuels-are-unsustainable/#comment-45841 R Margolis Sun, 13 May 2007 21:24:44 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/05/12/opec-we-are-here-to-correct-you-fossil-fuels-are-unsustainable/#comment-45841 I am probably going to cause a ruckus, however every time I work the numbers I always get a deficit in global power supply without some kind of nuclear. Even if China and India can live on 25% of the US per capita (the number Amory Lovins used to say), that is an enormous amount of power to supply with wind, solar, micro-hydro, etc. I am not saying nuclear would be majority energy source, but for baseload electricity (until you can better store renewable energy) nuclear has to be on the table. IPCC also listed nuclear as part (though not a majority) of the global warming solution. I am probably going to cause a ruckus, however every time I work the numbers I always get a deficit in global power supply without some kind of nuclear. Even if China and India can live on 25% of the US per capita (the number Amory Lovins used to say), that is an enormous amount of power to supply with wind, solar, micro-hydro, etc. I am not saying nuclear would be majority energy source, but for baseload electricity (until you can better store renewable energy) nuclear has to be on the table. IPCC also listed nuclear as part (though not a majority) of the global warming solution.

]]> http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/05/12/opec-we-are-here-to-correct-you-fossil-fuels-are-unsustainable/#comment-45842 Yochi Zakai Sun, 13 May 2007 08:50:08 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/05/12/opec-we-are-here-to-correct-you-fossil-fuels-are-unsustainable/#comment-45842 well delivered. way to show the world we're tried of waisting time discussing fossil fuels well delivered. way to show the world we’re tried of waisting time discussing fossil fuels

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