Comments on: 83.3% of My State is in Drought http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/05/12/833-of-my-state-is-in-drought/ Dispatches from the Youth Climate Movement Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:53:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: R Margolis http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/05/12/833-of-my-state-is-in-drought/#comment-45830 R Margolis Sun, 13 May 2007 20:42:37 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/05/12/833-of-my-state-is-in-drought/#comment-45830 Though I am not Carlos... Geo-engineering refers to the ideas of seeding the atmosphere or global reflectors to change the climate back. Most scientists (and IPCC too) oppose geo-engineering solutions. Though I am not Carlos… Geo-engineering refers to the ideas of seeding the atmosphere or global reflectors to change the climate back. Most scientists (and IPCC too) oppose geo-engineering solutions.

]]> By: Bill G. http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/05/12/833-of-my-state-is-in-drought/#comment-45831 Bill G. Sun, 13 May 2007 14:15:07 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/05/12/833-of-my-state-is-in-drought/#comment-45831 ''Blue Sky Mine'' For now much of Australia has experience a Mineral Mining Boom since 1999,..in my home Queensland Outback Town the Real Estate price had more than doubled since other coal mines had been open,.life is so good for those in this Industry,..what with the extra high Wages paid too entice city folk out into this locations. If one ever visit these mining Towns,..it appears to be culture mostly of Beer n Bricks with Agriculture taken a back seat. As China purchase our coal,.we in turn buy their products which are far cheaper then we ever could had manufacture here at home,.hence much of our Industry is relocated into China or Asia,.and some leader's call it a Win Win situation. State and Federal Governments could be said to be like a Junkie,...hooked on this current trend as our debt to GDP rises over 6.5%,.they need mores mines to open. Best wishes Billyg. ”Blue Sky Mine”
For now much of Australia has experience a Mineral Mining Boom since 1999,..in my home Queensland Outback Town the Real Estate price had more than doubled since other coal mines had been open,.life is so good for those in this Industry,..what with the extra high Wages paid too entice city folk out into this locations.
If one ever visit these mining Towns,..it appears to be culture mostly of Beer n Bricks with Agriculture taken a back seat.
As China purchase our coal,.we in turn buy their products which are far cheaper then we ever could had manufacture here at home,.hence much of our Industry is relocated into China or Asia,.and some leader’s call it a Win Win situation.
State and Federal Governments could be said to be like a Junkie,…hooked on this current trend as our debt to GDP rises over 6.5%,.they need mores mines to open.

Best wishes
Billyg.

]]> By: Anna Rose http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/05/12/833-of-my-state-is-in-drought/#comment-45829 Anna Rose Sat, 12 May 2007 21:47:16 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/05/12/833-of-my-state-is-in-drought/#comment-45829 In Australia most people seem to have made the connection between the drought and global warming - farmers are saying 'this is NOT a drought - this is climate change, because we have never ever seen anything like this before'. The National farmers Federation, a traditionally very conservative body politically aligned with the Liberal-National coalition, has been making great statements calling for action on climate change, as it pissed off that our govt is putting the fossil fuel sector ahead of the agricultural sector. For example, the NFF released this statement on 5 February 2007: Climate change threat must be tackled ‚Äòhead on‚Äô ‚ÄúTHE threat of global climate change is potentially the biggest issue Australian agriculture has ever faced with reports of increasing seasonal variability and more extreme weather events,‚Äù National Farmers‚Äô Federation (NFF) President David Crombie declared today.... We call upon the Australian Government to realise the significant contribution agriculture stands to make in meeting the challenge of climate change. This is not simply an issue for the mining, stationary energy and transport sectors, as the Government‚Äôs leaning to-date suggests is their sole approach. ‚ÄúThe Government needs to make a significant investment in all our futures and must include agriculture as a fundamental part of any genuine tilt at a climate change solution ‚Äì anything less will be to the cost of generations to come.‚Äù ps - Hey Carlos, what is geo-engineering? In Australia most people seem to have made the connection between the drought and global warming - farmers are saying ‘this is NOT a drought - this is climate change, because we have never ever seen anything like this before’. The National farmers Federation, a traditionally very conservative body politically aligned with the Liberal-National coalition, has been making great statements calling for action on climate change, as it pissed off that our govt is putting the fossil fuel sector ahead of the agricultural sector. For example, the NFF released this statement on 5 February 2007:

Climate change threat must be tackled ‘head on’

‚ÄúTHE threat of global climate change is potentially the biggest issue Australian agriculture has ever faced with reports of increasing seasonal variability and more extreme weather events,‚Äù National Farmers‚Äô Federation (NFF) President David Crombie declared today….

We call upon the Australian Government to realise the significant contribution agriculture stands to make in meeting the challenge of climate change. This is not simply an issue for the mining, stationary energy and transport sectors, as the Government’s leaning to-date suggests is their sole approach.

“The Government needs to make a significant investment in all our futures and must include agriculture as a fundamental part of any genuine tilt at a climate change solution – anything less will be to the cost of generations to come.”

ps - Hey Carlos, what is geo-engineering?

]]> By: R Margolis http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/05/12/833-of-my-state-is-in-drought/#comment-45832 R Margolis Sat, 12 May 2007 19:06:08 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/05/12/833-of-my-state-is-in-drought/#comment-45832 I also live in Florida (also lived in California during a big drought). Maybe folks still are in denial, but big issues like global warming are often hard for people to grasp and accept. Especially if it means changes in the way we make and/or use energy. We often forget that coal was revolutionary in its time, and created huge economic disruptions. People may fear the disruptions more than the warming... for now. :-) I also live in Florida (also lived in California during a big drought). Maybe folks still are in denial, but big issues like global warming are often hard for people to grasp and accept. Especially if it means changes in the way we make and/or use energy. We often forget that coal was revolutionary in its time, and created huge economic disruptions. People may fear the disruptions more than the warming… for now. :-)

]]> By: Amy Ortiz http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/05/12/833-of-my-state-is-in-drought/#comment-45833 Amy Ortiz Sat, 12 May 2007 18:16:27 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/05/12/833-of-my-state-is-in-drought/#comment-45833 I live in Florida, and we currently experiencing a huge drought. A large percentage of the state is also on fire, to the extent that we haven't really seen the sun in the past 2 days here because of the smoke. But people seem to be completely unaffected by it. I wonder when we will make the connection in America between fires, drought, tornadoes and hurricanes as evidence that global warming is affecting us right now. How much longer will we ignore the blatant truth and continue to not take immediate and drastic action to halt global warming before it gets even worse? I think the pressure will have to come from the youth, as we demand a just and clean energy future. I live in Florida, and we currently experiencing a huge drought. A large percentage of the state is also on fire, to the extent that we haven’t really seen the sun in the past 2 days here because of the smoke. But people seem to be completely unaffected by it. I wonder when we will make the connection in America between fires, drought, tornadoes and hurricanes as evidence that global warming is affecting us right now. How much longer will we ignore the blatant truth and continue to not take immediate and drastic action to halt global warming before it gets even worse? I think the pressure will have to come from the youth, as we demand a just and clean energy future.

]]> By: Carlos Rymer http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/05/12/833-of-my-state-is-in-drought/#comment-45834 Carlos Rymer Sat, 12 May 2007 12:48:01 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/05/12/833-of-my-state-is-in-drought/#comment-45834 I keep thinking that all the effects we're seeing around the world are just with a 0.8C increase in the global mean temperature. It has been quick enough to throw systems off by a large margin. For this reason, it is probably not a good idea to try to keep temperature around 2C. More than doubling that increase would be catastrophic for many places, plus it risks the science being uncertain and us going into runaway climate at a lower temperature than currently thought. I think we ought to demand cuts as soon as possible so as the keep the increase very minimal. Otherwise, we will face the severe consequences of a 1.5-2C increase in the global mean temperature (and it won't be a nice story for billions). Realistically, for the sake of those suffering the most, geoengineering needs funding for research because it will be truly necessary if we enter runaway climate (not that I'm for it; I just think it would be the just thing to do for others). I keep thinking that all the effects we’re seeing around the world are just with a 0.8C increase in the global mean temperature. It has been quick enough to throw systems off by a large margin. For this reason, it is probably not a good idea to try to keep temperature around 2C. More than doubling that increase would be catastrophic for many places, plus it risks the science being uncertain and us going into runaway climate at a lower temperature than currently thought. I think we ought to demand cuts as soon as possible so as the keep the increase very minimal. Otherwise, we will face the severe consequences of a 1.5-2C increase in the global mean temperature (and it won’t be a nice story for billions). Realistically, for the sake of those suffering the most, geoengineering needs funding for research because it will be truly necessary if we enter runaway climate (not that I’m for it; I just think it would be the just thing to do for others).

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