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	<title>Comments on: Stop Global Warming?&#8230;.Stop eating Meat</title>
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	<description>Dispatches from the Youth Climate Movement</description>
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		<title>By: RooLoo</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/02/19/stop-global-warmingstop-eating-meat/#comment-45232</link>
		<dc:creator>RooLoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2007 20:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GO VEG!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Matt Reitman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Reitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can definitely all agree that food is a significant part of our environmental impact as a species.  Folks are doing pretty ridiculous things with food these days, the end.  An issue as close to the heart, and the stomach, as food makes a great entry into the climate debate.  Why table at the student center and not in the dining halls?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can definitely all agree that food is a significant part of our environmental impact as a species.  Folks are doing pretty ridiculous things with food these days, the end.  An issue as close to the heart, and the stomach, as food makes a great entry into the climate debate.  Why table at the student center and not in the dining halls?</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy DenHerder-Thomas</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/02/19/stop-global-warmingstop-eating-meat/#comment-45228</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy DenHerder-Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I basically agree with the above, but I wanted to qualify some of what's been said.

I'm not a vegetarian, and probably couldn't do very well as one. But I do shift down impact levels, eating more chicken and fish (low carbon and low general impact, unless the fish was farmed or is a species under pressure) than pork and other meat, and very little beef (highest impact, both in carbon and land-use, pesticides, etc.). I also eat quite a bit less meat than the average American, but it's still probably about once a day.

I think it's also important to qualify the problem with meat - it's really a problem of concentrating the effects of industrial agriculture. Corn ag. uses tons of fuel, natural gas derived fertilized, machinery, and processing - lots of energy, which is the vast majority of the carbon emissions in meat, especially beef. I was a bit suspicious about the numbers provided as well, but I know that American agriculture is responsible for about as much global warming as American cars, and since corn is over half of that, and 60% of America's corn is fed JUST to steers, I can rather easily believe cow farts, soil disturbance, and tropical forest degradation (lots of those hamburgers are raised in Brazil and similar places) could make up the 18% claimed. The main problem, at least in terms of carbon emissions is not meat per se, but how it's produced.

This may sound like semantics until one realizes that grass fed beef done in a manner that maintains pasture diversity, might actually be carbon negative - that is, taking more carbon out of the atmosphere than is released. This is because appropriate, non-intensive grazing stimulates root carbon storage in the soil by grasses, adding dramatically to soil carbon at a very rapid rate. If a vegetarian is getting industrially produced food, it could actually have a higher carbon footprint. Organic food is only sometimes better, since if it has been shipped across the country or around the world, the small reduction in fossil fuel use in agriculture is offset by the transport fuel. Local food is one key to climate nuetral dining. This is a very complex picture.

I just wanted to point out that there are many ways to eat climate smart, and that we have to look at it very carefully.

I would strongly recommend Michael Pollan's The Omnivores Dilemma. I'm reading it for a class actually, but it's thoroughly engrossing. It talks all about food - its cultural and ecological sustainability - and how to do it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I basically agree with the above, but I wanted to qualify some of what&#8217;s been said.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a vegetarian, and probably couldn&#8217;t do very well as one. But I do shift down impact levels, eating more chicken and fish (low carbon and low general impact, unless the fish was farmed or is a species under pressure) than pork and other meat, and very little beef (highest impact, both in carbon and land-use, pesticides, etc.). I also eat quite a bit less meat than the average American, but it&#8217;s still probably about once a day.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s also important to qualify the problem with meat - it&#8217;s really a problem of concentrating the effects of industrial agriculture. Corn ag. uses tons of fuel, natural gas derived fertilized, machinery, and processing - lots of energy, which is the vast majority of the carbon emissions in meat, especially beef. I was a bit suspicious about the numbers provided as well, but I know that American agriculture is responsible for about as much global warming as American cars, and since corn is over half of that, and 60% of America&#8217;s corn is fed JUST to steers, I can rather easily believe cow farts, soil disturbance, and tropical forest degradation (lots of those hamburgers are raised in Brazil and similar places) could make up the 18% claimed. The main problem, at least in terms of carbon emissions is not meat per se, but how it&#8217;s produced.</p>
<p>This may sound like semantics until one realizes that grass fed beef done in a manner that maintains pasture diversity, might actually be carbon negative - that is, taking more carbon out of the atmosphere than is released. This is because appropriate, non-intensive grazing stimulates root carbon storage in the soil by grasses, adding dramatically to soil carbon at a very rapid rate. If a vegetarian is getting industrially produced food, it could actually have a higher carbon footprint. Organic food is only sometimes better, since if it has been shipped across the country or around the world, the small reduction in fossil fuel use in agriculture is offset by the transport fuel. Local food is one key to climate nuetral dining. This is a very complex picture.</p>
<p>I just wanted to point out that there are many ways to eat climate smart, and that we have to look at it very carefully.</p>
<p>I would strongly recommend Michael Pollan&#8217;s The Omnivores Dilemma. I&#8217;m reading it for a class actually, but it&#8217;s thoroughly engrossing. It talks all about food - its cultural and ecological sustainability - and how to do it right.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Altemose</title>
		<link>http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/02/19/stop-global-warmingstop-eating-meat/#comment-45230</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Altemose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I should have included the link (I tried to, but I guess it didn't work).

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0220/p03s01-ussc.html?s=hns

i did the same thing, Jesse, but only about 3 years ago.  I wonder how many Americans would be willing to give up meat if the evidence were so clearly presented?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I should have included the link (I tried to, but I guess it didn&#8217;t work).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0220/p03s01-ussc.html?s=hns" rel="nofollow">http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0220/p03s01-ussc.html?s=hns</a></p>
<p>i did the same thing, Jesse, but only about 3 years ago.  I wonder how many Americans would be willing to give up meat if the evidence were so clearly presented?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeses Jenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeses Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm a bit skeptical that greenhouse gas emissions from livestock total more than the emissions caused by transportation (where did you get that figure from?), but you have a great point.  The environmental footprint of meat production and consumption is considerable, and extends far beyond just it's contribution to greenhouse gas emissions.  From water consumption, to air and water pollution, and fossil fuel consumption and soil erosion, domestic livestock production is a tragic waste of resources.  I've been a vegetarian for almost six years now, (about a quarter of my life) and my primary reasons for going vegetarian (and staying that way) are the wasted resources and much larger environmental footprint associated with eating meat.  Humanitarian reasons help me stay committed, but my primary motivation is to reduce my environmental footprint.  Next to driving less, going vegetarian, or at least cutting out as much meat from your diet as possible, is probably the biggest thing you can do to lessen your footprint on this planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit skeptical that greenhouse gas emissions from livestock total more than the emissions caused by transportation (where did you get that figure from?), but you have a great point.  The environmental footprint of meat production and consumption is considerable, and extends far beyond just it&#8217;s contribution to greenhouse gas emissions.  From water consumption, to air and water pollution, and fossil fuel consumption and soil erosion, domestic livestock production is a tragic waste of resources.  I&#8217;ve been a vegetarian for almost six years now, (about a quarter of my life) and my primary reasons for going vegetarian (and staying that way) are the wasted resources and much larger environmental footprint associated with eating meat.  Humanitarian reasons help me stay committed, but my primary motivation is to reduce my environmental footprint.  Next to driving less, going vegetarian, or at least cutting out as much meat from your diet as possible, is probably the biggest thing you can do to lessen your footprint on this planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Rymer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos Rymer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, those numbers say we ought to stop feeding cows our own food. I think the recent UN report said cows are responsible for 50% of all methane emissions. Plants are just so much tastier and juicy, why do we continue choosing meat, and cow meat! I'll keep pushing my mom into becoming a vegetarian. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, those numbers say we ought to stop feeding cows our own food. I think the recent UN report said cows are responsible for 50% of all methane emissions. Plants are just so much tastier and juicy, why do we continue choosing meat, and cow meat! I&#8217;ll keep pushing my mom into becoming a vegetarian.  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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