Comments on: The Tale of the Misguided Environmental Lawyer or Why RFK Jr. Doesn’t Get It http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/ Dispatches from the Youth Climate Movement Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:09:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Heraldblog http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45203 Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:19:33 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45203 RFK’s knowledge of LNG is nearly as deep as his understanding of autism. Or it could be the other way around.

]]> By: Juliana http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45210 Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:48:59 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45210 Thanks Rory for the correction. It slipped my mind that these two events are not in the same place.

]]> By: Mike de Martino http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45216 Tue, 20 Feb 2007 23:26:34 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45216 Great Job! Kennedy is a real disappointment to me. I had a post in November on The Huffington Post in which I asked Kennedy to help us here in Oxnard. Well, this is his response to my plea for help. If you want to know what I said to him check out Wait A minute Arnold on by blog.
Thanks again for putting him on the spot.

Mike de Martino
Oxnard CA

]]> By: Rory Cox http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45215 Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:29:41 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45215 Nice one! One minor correction: Loretta Lynch is not currently scheduled to speak at the E-Law conference. She will be speaking in Portland on March 5.

]]> By: Hope Taylor http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45209 Tue, 20 Feb 2007 03:25:22 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45209 Thank you Juliana for such an excellent and well-written article.
I was once a fan of RFK, Jr., but his stands on energy issues have made me ask many questions and wonder why he has taken such environmentally unfriendly stands of late.
For instance, NRDC is one of the finest and most effective of the environmental groups, yet I hear that NRDC has accepted a large amount of funding to promote IGCC. Personally, I am against mountaintop removal, and believe that we should completely get away from using coal. IGCC is not the answer to our energy problems, yet RFK, Jr. and NRDC seem to be fully embracing it as the answer to all our energy needs. NOT!

thank you, and please keep exposing the truth!
No new coal fired power plants! Close down the polluters!
No Nukes! Clean Energy through renewables and conservation is the answer.

]]> By: Yochi Zakai http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45208 Sat, 17 Feb 2007 21:08:13 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45208 Well written, researched and presented. Thanks Juliana!

]]> By: John McNary http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45207 Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:17:04 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45207 Interesting logic from Kennedy.

Malibu and Santa Monica are somehow, he says, entitled to less environmental protection than other parts of the United States?

First, the pipeline from BHP Billiton to Los Angeles goes sideways all the way up the coast from Malibu to Oxnard, where it comes ashore at the only place on the southern California coast where farmworkers live near the coast. Several mobile home farms that are occupied by field workers are right on top of the 30-inch pressurized pipeline.

BHP Billiton plans to give them smoke detectors and annual fire drills. Seriously – that;s their plan to mitigate high pressure gas under a trailer park. I hope they will include instructions in nahuatl and mayan – those hardworking people largely do not speak spanish.

But let’s take RFK2′s faulty logic to its logical conclusion: why are Santa Monica and Malibu singled out for exemption from the Clean Air Act, the Marina Mammals Protection Act, Endangered Specias Act, and all the other law violations that BHP Billiton propose? RFK said he is against BHP Billiuton? Or in favor?

Then, let’s take that one step further: if energy factories must be placed away from poor people, what about Hyannisport? Shouldn’t the wind farm that RFK2 rails against in the NY Times be supported by him, because only rich people live there?

]]> By: Caroline Wood http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45206 Sat, 17 Feb 2007 08:34:17 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45206 I live on the Columbia River twenty miles up river from the proposed LNG plant at Bradwood Landing. Putting LNG plants on the Lower Columbia River is crazy. There is port traffic and recreational boats on the river and people on the beaches that would be within the safety buffer zone. Does this mean everyone would be told to get off the beach or does it mean that safety will be ‘flexible’? Why should the public give up the way they use the river (not to mention high risks regarding safety) so that private companies can make bundles? I am a great admirer of RFK Jr. and find his thoughts on LNG to be shocking. He’s not a reed that bends whichever way the wind is blowing. He’s not afraid to stand up and speak from his heart. Columbia RiverKeepers are dead against proposed LNGs on the Lower Columbia River and are working hard to do whatever they can to stop them. I can’t believe RFK Jr would be pro LNG, it’s like saying St. Peter has a timeshare in Hell. I don’t think so. Caroline Wood

]]> By: Jesse Jenkins http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45214 Sat, 17 Feb 2007 01:54:13 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45214 Excellent post, Juliana. Way to stick it to RFK Jr. with the tough questions. He has once again demonstrated his very superficial understanding of energy issues. While RFK Jr. may be an effective advocate at times for environmental causes (he’s certainly a well-known voice), he has been a pretty poor advocate for clean energy and climate change solutions. As Adi points out, he has been a main opponent of the Cape Wind project – which in and of it’s self is not a bad thing provided you base your objections on well-reasoned arguments (there are few left agains the project) and not on discredited arguments and knee-jerk NIMBYism, which seems to be the case with RFK Jr.

RFK is a well known personality and has taken a leadership position amongst the environmental community. His position affords him a relatively loud voice on these issues. Too bad he routinely opens his mouth without first understanding the issues he’s commenting on.

Cheers,

Jesse Jenkins
Portland, OR
http://watthead.blogspot.com

]]> By: Christina http://itsgettinghotinhere.org/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45205 Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:49:19 +0000 http://itsgettinghotinhere.wordpress.com/2007/02/16/the-tale-of-the-misguided-environmental-lawyer-or-why-rfk-jr-doesnt-get-it/#comment-45205 Excellent work, Juliana! You rock, my girl. GREAT article too :)

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